PLAN ASW Capability

FairAndUnbiased

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The thing is also that Chinese logistics has developed to such a point that even if they had to build up a base of operations from scratch in a distant location they absolutely can pull it off, the transport of SAMs to Serbia is but a small fraction of that capability in practice.
There has been a real world test of PLA logistical capability: the deployment to Ladakh of 100k fully equipped troops with armor within a few weeks of Ladakh and sustaining them for months while Indian troops were freezing in makeshift tents. Both sides had only rudimentary civilian infrastructure at the border.

Certain adversaries would not have been able to do that. They took 6 months in Operation Desert Shield to build up in Saudi Arabia on existing Saudi infrastructure, a much more friendly environment than the no man's land in western Tibet, for the purposes of invading Iraq, which is much weaker relative to that certain adversary than India vs. China.

The real strength of certain adversary logistics is having 1000 bases everywhere. Without those bases, it's just not that impressive.

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beijing_bandar

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An Indian defense journalist relying mainly on Western sources claims Chinese ASW capabilities are weak relative to other naval capabilities. Staying within an objective mindset, to what extent is his analysis on the mark?

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Aukus aims at a critical vulnerability in the Chinese Navy ‹their weak antisubmarine warfare capabilities.

Even as China deployed wave after wave of new ships in the first decade-and-a-half of this century, many lacked organic ASW sensors such as towed-array and variable-depth sonar systems, a March 23 article in US Naval Institute Proceedings said, terming them strange oversights for a country constructing a massive surface fleet.

The last country to under-invest in ASW, Imperial Japan during the Second World War, saw its surface fleet, troop ships, and merchant marine ships destroyed by marauding US naval submarines, leading to an economic collapse and the end of its empire. As the ultimate arbiters of sea power, SSNs could thus ensure a stable Indo-Pacific.
 

lcloo

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An Indian defense journalist relying mainly on Western sources claims Chinese ASW capabilities are weak relative to other naval capabilities. Staying within an objective mindset, to what extent is his analysis on the mark?

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My advise is "avoid all Indian media on PLA news".

PLAN has nearly 150 ships from 1,400 tons to 13,000 tons equiped with Even as China deployed wave after wave of new ships in the first decade-and-a-half of this century, many lacked organic ASW sensors such as towed-array and variable-depth sonar systems.

There are also Y8Q/Y9Q, Z8F/Z18F, and soon Z20F. And many other toys at the seabeds around China.
 

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An Indian defense journalist relying mainly on Western sources claims Chinese ASW capabilities are weak relative to other naval capabilities. Staying within an objective mindset, to what extent is his analysis on the mark?

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In general basically all media are at least two decades out of date for PLAN ASW capabilities.

It is not a stretch at all to say that as a rule of thumb, it is probably best to ignore 99% of articles, writeups and other media that talk about PLAN ASW capability -- it's definitely not only India defense media lol
 

Hendrik_2000

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Why did such a discovery become publicized??
It was publicized in SCMP here is an excerpt from the news. It is still a research project but it has a future
From AT with a link to the original SCMP post- And Chinese ship research journal link
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China may have landed on a way to better detect stealth nuclear submarines, a development that could jeopardize US operations in the contested South China Sea and more significantly undermine the survivability of its underwater nuclear deterrent.

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that researchers at the Chinese Academy of Sciences Fujian Institute of Research on the Structure of Matter discovered an ultra-sensitive submarine detector based on existing technologies that can detect traces of the most advanced submarine from great distances.

The science team, led by Zou Shengnan, published their findings in the
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, run by the China Ship Scientific Research Center and noted for its history of being at the forefront of ship and ocean engineering developments.

SCMP notes that the Chinese science team used computer modeling to determine the possibility of detecting the near-imperceptible bubbles a nuclear submarine produces. It says that the extremely low frequency (ELF) signal generated by these bubbles could be many times stronger than the sensitivities of advanced magnetic anomaly detectors.

The bubbles form when a submarine cruises due to increased kinetic energy and a corresponding decrease in potential energy expressed as pressure. This happens because the system’s total energy remains constant but the balance between kinetic and potential energy shifts.

Here is the video explaining it in more detail
 
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