PLAN Anti-ship/surface missiles

Josh Luo said:

Is it possible that China's export versions could be of a high quality (and thus range) than domestic ones, even this does not make realist rational sense?

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Immensely doubtful. In some rare cases the the Chinese defence industry have exported more advanced and more capable weapons than what they were initially inducting at the time, but this overwhelmingly tends to be ground/army weapons like AFVs or artillery, and rockets, rather than more strategic and advanced weapons like SAMs, AShMs and the like.

The bigger issue is why their report threw out 220 km when C-602 (export YJ-62) has been listed to have a range of 280km quite publicly for a number of years now, to comply with MTCR.
I could understand if the report listed 280km as they might consider that a more reliable number compared to the rumoured 400+ km we've known for a number of years now, but 220km?? It is such a random number I wonder if some unknowledgeable hack job of an analyst just threw it out there without consulting even a google search.




(Note, I haven't actually read the report, but if they did list 220km as YJ-62's range then all my above still holds)

220 x 1.852 = 407.44

Just a thought.

Preux said:

220 x 1.852 = 407.44

Just a thought.

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Where does the 1.852 come from?

Bltizo said:

Where does the 1.852 come from?

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1nm = 1.852km, I think the idea is that someone might have written "220km" instead of "220nm" (~400km) which could explain the numbers in the report.

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Bltizo said:

Immensely doubtful. In some rare cases the the Chinese defence industry have exported more advanced and more capable weapons than what they were initially inducting at the time, but this overwhelmingly tends to be ground/army weapons like AFVs or artillery, and rockets, rather than more strategic and advanced weapons like SAMs, AShMs and the like.

The bigger issue is why their report threw out 220 km when C-602 (export YJ-62) has been listed to have a range of 280km quite publicly for a number of years now, to comply with MTCR.
I could understand if the report listed 280km as they might consider that a more reliable number compared to the rumoured 400+ km we've known for a number of years now, but 220km?? It is such a random number I wonder if some unknowledgeable hack job of an analyst just threw it out there without consulting even a google search.

(Note, I haven't actually read the report, but if they did list 220km as YJ-62's range then all my above still holds)

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The report states that the YJ-62 has a range of 120nm, while the YJ-8A (what is that?) has a range of 65nm. However, the YJ-18 has a range of 290nm. As much as I trust DoD sources, I feel like these range estimations sound like wild guesses.

Josh Luo said:

Is it possible that China's export versions could be of a high quality (and thus range) than domestic ones...

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Hehehe...well, certainly it is possible.

But it is completely improbable that China or any other major country would do such a thing to the point of being completely unrealistic.

According to Dr. Andrew Erickson, "Ranges quoted for anti-ship cruise missiles are not explained; some may be debatable in practice depending on the assumptions used to calculate them."

The first photos of what is believed to be the fourth variant of the YJ-18, as well as its twin-canister launcher, have been spotted. This variant is believed to be a VLS-borne, shore-based, anti-ship variant.

Hence, the YJ-18 is now believed to come in four variants:
- YJ-18: basic land attack variant
- YJ-18A: VLS-borne anti-ship variant
- YJ-18B: submarine-borne anti-ship variant
- YJ-18X: VLS-borne shore-based variant (photographed here)

The missile equips the 052D and will do likewise on the 055.

Interesting photo of the YJ-12 during air-drop tests (presumably from an H-6G bomber):