PLAN Anti-Piracy Deployments

SteelBird

Colonel
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

Unlikely, as if the Indians did that, then the PLAN would be well within their rights to shoot the MKIs out of the sky, and I have little doubt most captains would do just that if their ships were locked on by potentially hostile fighters.

As I mentioned before, such a claim (using MKI to lock on the vessel in order to force it turns on its radar) is baseless speculation, and not worth us to discuss about. So, don't let the issue lead to an IAF vs PLAN flame war.
 

hao903

Banned Idiot
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

Lol chill I was just wondering whether that was even possible.

I wasn't sure if rules of engagement allowed the Indians to do that, or for this matter, anyone to "lock on".
 

Finn McCool

Captain
Registered Member
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

Lol chill I was just wondering whether that was even possible.

I wasn't sure if rules of engagement allowed the Indians to do that, or for this matter, anyone to "lock on".

As I said in an earlier thread it has happened before in several places and times but only in air-to-air situations. I have never heard of an aircraft locking onto a ship in one of these high-seas games of chicken that we seem to be hearing about a lot lately.
 

flyzies

Junior Member
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

I think our new friend has used some harsh words "d**n", kindly remind him not to do that again, 'coz we are civilized people. For the source of the claim that Indian would use its MKI with Bramos to force PLAN to turn on its radar, I also read that from sina.com. It was sometime about the rumors (sorry, for I can't get confirmed whether this event is true or false, so I call it rumor) about PLAN vessels cornered and forced an IN Kilo to surface. However, the article said that some Indian officers said "...by all means including using... in order to force...". I read this as someone's personal opinion rather than they have decide to do so, nor have they done so. Further, it's the author's speculation. The source can't be confirmed. So, don't take it too serious unless you have credible source.

Thanks for that. I was just curious about it, tho i never read too much into rumours.
Im sure if a potentially hostile fighter did lock on, the ship wouldve been within its rights to shoot it down then claim it was self defence.
 

flyzies

Junior Member
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

:china:
I know Shenzhen no. is 167, not sure which no. the 054A frigate Huangshan is tho...can anyone help?

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Chinese navy to send new escort ships to Somali waters

ZHANJIANG, Guangdong Province, March 31 (Xinhua) -- A second group of Chinese navy escort ships will set sail for the Gulf of Aden Thursday to replace a flotilla sent earlier to guard against pirates.

The new task force will comprise the destroyer, Shenzhen, and frigate Huangshan, as well as the supply ship, Weishanhu, which served in the first escort mission.

With two helicopters and total crew exceeding 800, including navy special forces, it is mainly tasked with ensuring the safety of Chinese vessels passing through the gulf and waters off Somalia and those of international organizations like the World Food Program shipping humanitarian goods.

The flotilla will traverse 4,600 nautical miles, passing the Xisha and Nansha Islands, the Singapore Strait, the Strait of Malacca and the Indian Ocean before it arrives in the Gulf of Aden.

China initiated its three-ship escort task force on Dec. 26 last year after the United Nations Security Council called on countries to patrol gulf and waters off Somalia, one of the world's busiest marine routes, where surging piracy endangered intercontinental shipping.

The ships had escorted 104 vessels and rescued three foreign merchant ships from pirate attacks, Huang Jiaxiang, political commissar of the Navy's South China Sea Fleet, said in a March 11 interview.

About 20 percent of Chinese merchant ships passing through the waters off Somalia were attacked by pirates from January to November in 2008, before the task force was deployed.

A total of seven ships, either owned by China or carrying Chinese cargo and crew, were hijacked.

Tianyu No. 8, a Chinese fishing vessel with 16 Chinese (including one from Taiwan) and eight foreign sailors aboard, was captured by Somali pirates on Nov. 14 last year and released in early February.
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
VIP Professional
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

Relief is on the way for the PLAN anti-piracy Task Force! How do you gents feel about these deployments? How long should China keep a commitment to the anti-piracy efforts?

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A naval officer stands in front of the destroyer Shenzhen in Zhanjiang, Guangdong province, April 1, 2009. The ship will sail to the Gulf of Aden today to protect merchant vessels from pirates. [China Daily]

ZHANJIANG, Guangdong: Somali pirates remain a menace to trade in the Gulf of Aden and beyond, and the navy may extend its current mission to cope with their threats, said a senior naval commander Wednesday.

"Pirates have recently expanded their zone of operations, coordinated with each other, upgraded their weapons and selected a wider range of targets. They also tend to use force more often," said Rear Admiral Yao Zhilou, the commander of a new fleet setting sail today to replace the current anti-piracy fleet near Somalia.

The commander also said the pirates have recently increased their presence in the eastern region of the Indian Ocean where there are fewer patrolling warships.

The navy will adapt to the pirates' new strategies, added the admiral, who is also vice-commander of the South China Sea Fleet, mainly guarding China's southern maritime territory.

"Pirates remain a big threat to merchant vessels on the sea," Yao told reporters on the eve of his fleet's departure.

The fleet, which includes the well-traveled "celebrity destroyer" Shenzhen as the flagship, and one-year-old frigate Huangshan, will set sail at 10 am to replace the two destroyers, Wuhan and Haikou, currently guiding merchant vessels in the Indian Ocean.

While the warships are being replaced, China's biggest supply ship, Weishanhu, will continue to serve in the second escort fleet after sailing for 98 days, keeping the current number of soldiers for the mission at more than 800.

"Destroyer Shenzhen is a well-known ship after traveling to nearly 20 countries including the US, Japan and European countries, while the frigate Huangshan is a newly built warship that we want to put to the test this time," said the commander.

With two helicopters and navy special forces aboard the two warships, the capabilities of the second fleet will be similar to the current flotilla comprised of two destroyers and a supply vessel, Yao said.

The commander also said the fleet, which will join about 20 countries for the multinational campaign against pirates, will continue to exchange information with other navies.

The fleet will set off from a naval base in the west Guangdong city of Zhanjiang, headquarters to the South China Sea Fleet.

The fleet will arrive in the Gulf of Aden after a trip of nearly 10 days.

The current fleet will return once its replacement arrives.

Since starting their mission in January, the warships have escorted more than 150 vessels and rescued three foreign merchant ships from pirate attacks.

Calling the mission so far a great success, Rear Admiral Zhang Deshun, the deputy chief of staff of the People's Liberation Army navy, told China Daily earlier that the navy is prepared for a prolonged endeavor in which China joins forces with international naval forces to combat piracy.

He said it may not be a short mission, with its length depending on the Somali political situation and on when Somali piracy can be eradicated.
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
VIP Professional
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

More photos of friends and family see the Shenzhen off to the Gulf of Aden.

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crobato

Colonel
VIP Professional
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

Heard that a fishing boat from Taiwan got jacked.
 

Semi-Lobster

Junior Member
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

Heard that a fishing boat from Taiwan got jacked.

I heard the same from the BBC (it was mentioned briefly in the recent US cargo ship hijacking) but I don't have any details really other than it was hijacked recently.
 
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