PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

GulfLander

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PLA air around the island today.

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It’s worth noting that (if my memory serves me correctly) this is the first time we’ve seen three UAVs operating in a coordinated manner east of Taiwan like this. Previously, it’s only ever been single UAVs, except for one time where two circumnavigated the island in opposite directions

Also relevant is that Liaoning is currently east of Taiwan in the PH Sea
I saw a clip in douyin refering to the Liaoning in east of T41wan. Is it for exercise or pre position, incase US ships sail there from Malacca or Japan?
 

Maikeru

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It is an open secret that there are US troops training the Taiwanese army (like green berets) and EW and intelligence personnel in Taiwan. These US troops are not hiding it and take photos everywhere in military uniforms.

I don’t think the mainland will escalate the situation because of this, or this kind of thing can no longer affect the speed of escalation. Whether there are 500 or 5,000 US troops on the island, the real influence on the trend of the war is still the naval and air force competition between China and the United States in the Pacific. Combined with the US military’s recent withdrawal of 4,500 troops from South Korea to the second island chain, I think the US military is still pessimistic about the survivability of the first island chain.
The real answer is to push US red lines in e.g. SCS or elsewhere.
 

RobertC

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The real answer is to push US red lines in e.g. SCS or elsewhere.
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May 26, 2025: An elaborate
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was conducted on Falalop, Woleai celebrating the "Reconstruction of Woleai Airport Runway." The project was characterized as a partnership between Shandong Hengyue Municipal Engineering Co., Ltd. of the People's Republic of China and the Department of Transportation, Communications & Infrastructure of the Federated States of Micronesia. The FSM President Wesley W. Simina was among the high level officials participating in the celebration.
The normal route to FSM is through Guam and Palau. Both, especially Guam, act as a de facto checkpoint because you need a U.S. visa. If the PRC runs flights direct into Woleai, they bypass international check points completely and even bypass oversight from Yap proper.
FSM is about 360 nautical miles from USAF and USN bases in Guam.
 

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FSM is about 360 nautical miles from USAF and USN bases in Guam.
I don't know the history or background of Shangdong Hengyue Municipal Engineering Co. Ltd. but this seems to be a straightforward restoration/construction project that's being spun up as a "PLA in our backyard" sensationalization by the Americans.
 

bsdnf

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I don't know the history or background of Shangdong Hengyue Municipal Engineering Co. Ltd. but this seems to be a straightforward restoration/construction project that's being spun up as a "PLA in our backyard" sensationalization by the Americans.
Typical persecutory delusion :rolleyes:

They have never cared about the people of third countries, preferring to keep in their primitive state so they can admire and serve them. But as soon as the Chinese do something to improve local livelihoods, they immediately jump out as if they have missed something, and often military
 
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vincent

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In my opinion this is a clear crossing of red line. It's not the 41 soldiers you can say they protect embassy or so. They should be given some period of time to leave and if not, wiped out, but this is a dilemma, if China should take the bait or not. If next year it's not 500 but 5000 it's clear violation of Chinese sovereignity, then it's not saying if China should take a bait or not but war is imminent.
Nah, leave them be. When the mainland is ready to restart the civil war, their existence on the island becomes the casus belli.
 

RoastGooseHKer

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In my opinion this is a clear crossing of red line. It's not the 41 soldiers you can say they protect embassy or so. They should be given some period of time to leave and if not, wiped out, but this is a dilemma, if China should take the bait or not. If next year it's not 500 but 5000 it's clear violation of Chinese sovereignity, then it's not saying if China should take a bait or not but war is imminent.
But maybe Taipei and Washington are deliberately trying to provoke China into striking now as opposed to after the 14th and 15th five-year plan, when China will become even more self-sufficient and dominant in most high-tech sectors. At least before China's demographic issues start to bite (after around 2035 or later, when the post-80s generation - China's baby boom, start to retire and receive state pensions), the longer Taipei waits, the more time would on China's side in the next decade or two. This is the now or never hypothesis (beat China when there is still a chance). It rhymes somewhat with Gilpin's hegemonic war theory and other IR realist schools.

Another hypothesis for the liberal west is the so-called to deter China up to late 2030s, when China's demographic issues sink in, and the CPC could no longer devote as much resources into national security as right now. This is the wait-until-China-starts-to-decline due to the impossibility to solving population aging school of thought.

Both assumptions rest upon China's aging population compelling to the CPC to invest vast majourity of resources on health and unemployment benefits starting around 16th five-year plan (post 2035), possibly slowing down the PLA's modernisation efforts and gradually reducing its capabilities by late 2030s and early 2040s. Thus, the PLA's capabilities would allegedly peak around 2035 before resources for guns would be needed to be spent on butter.

Maybe Washington's rationale behind increasing the number of GI trainers in Taiwan were rested on both assumptions (or more; one desperate and pessimistic, the other optimistic).
 

AndrewJ

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Why no one in this thread mentioned this? :oops:

Lai Ching-teh seems significantly softened his attitude about unification from the mainland around 20th May this year.

China also said it's willing to talk with Taiwan.

Is there a possibility that Peaceful Unification can be achieved in years? :eek:


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(Willing to talk with Taiwan)

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After promising to stand up to China and defend democracy at his inauguration, Lai insisted Taiwan was "willing" to communicate with Beijing if there was "parity and dignity".
China said on Tuesday it was "willing to engage in dialogue" with Taiwan but on condition.
"I, too, am committed to peace. Because peace is priceless and war has no winners. But when it comes to seeking peace, we cannot have dreams nor illusions," he said.
Taiwan will continue to strengthen its defences as preparing for war is the best way to avoid it, Lai added.
"I also reiterate here - Taiwan is happy to have exchanges and cooperation with China as long as there is reciprocal dignity. Using exchanges to replace hemming in, dialogue to replace confrontation."
 
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bsdnf

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Why no one in this thread mentioned this? :oops:

Lai Ching-teh seems significantly softened his attitude about unification from the mainland around 20th May this year.

China also said it's willing to talk with Taiwan.

Is there a possibility that Peaceful Unification can be achieved in years? :eek:


Response from China's spokesman:
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The mainland authorities did not respond to his “corporate merger theory” because it could be interpreted as “two countries theory.”

The mainland's prerequisite for dialogue is recognition of the “one China principle” and the “1992 Consensus.” no such thing as “peaceful coexistence between Taiwan and China”, only “peaceful coexistence and future reunification between Taiwan and the mainland." But this was clearly unacceptable to Lai. Lai appears to be yielding, but in reality, it is only verbal.

So, everything remained the same.
 
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votran

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Nah, leave them be. When the mainland is ready to restart the civil war, their existence on the island becomes the casus belli.
too soft in a world full of cut-throat that the whole mainland problem , both grovernment and citizen

hongkong is an example : those US/west bootlickers youth have no army , no firearms and yet ever since 97 they freely bully mainlander there : attack people speak mandarin , called them cockroach sub-human , burn people with gasoline , throw brick at mainlander behind their back for decades even to this day
riot in milions destroy public stuff > no consequences , alot of them still able to move freely to the west and keep doing the thing
get praise as peaceful freedom fighter > while mainland take the blame for destroy hongkong , still being paint as pure evil
what next ? after peaceful unification/liberation mainland and taiwan , hongkong 2.0 electric boogaloo problem show up with 10x more number ?

you guy truely special , i never seen any countries on earth soft and peaceful like that . even today "peaceful and polite" japan , no okinawan dare to treat mainland japanese like the way those hongkonger youth did toward mainland chinese

let alone other ...less peaceful , less polite nation and their way of dealing with large number disloyal potential traitors
 
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