PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

Biscuits

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The US is at a massive disadvantage in terms of being bottlenecked by maybe a dozen operationally significant bases but on the flip side the PRC itself gets put on a timer the moment the USN and JMSDF and probably the Indian navy shut down Chinese maritime shipping. There is good progress being made on overland trade corridors and oil & gas pipelines but these are not sufficient to sustain the Chinese economy at anything approaching pre-hostility levels.

The threshold for American success IMO is sustaining a blockade of Chinese commercial traffic long enough to force a capitulation in Beijing. The threshold for Chinese success is probably at least clearing the Arctic maritime route with Russia so that maritime cargos can flow again. This necessitates boots on the ground in the Japanese mainland IMO.

I've studied the figures and to my understanding, assuming the overland trade corridors are completed on schedule and a 20-50% wartime rationing scheme, there is about 3-5 years of state reserves of critical commodities (foods, rare earths, fossil fuels, etc) for the PRC to smash through the blockade and destroy/severely degrade the US global strike command.
Even assuming some 100% effective naval blockade, which would be far from realistic, China's wartime resources and needs are all situation on the eurasian mainland...

I don't see why China has any need to sustain it's entire economy at pre war levels.

If Japan joins in an invasion, which is crucial in many ways for US to have a chance to build up, after China repels the US attack, they will counterattack in Japan. Japan is a 5.7 trillion economy, so US can inflict as much shipping damage to primarily non Chinese flagged vessels which will piss off the whole world as they want, while China can sustain its continued mobilization first by land, and then continously grow through conquest.

A scenario where a China creates it's own client state collection by force using the former US controlled states in Asia and the subcontinent, despite whatever piracy US manages to commit in the far seas thousands of miles away from China, is still going to see significant growth for China, as they can now strip the loser countries of anything valuable, if the need arises.

The whole idea that US can avoid direct assault and just vaguely attack Chinese interests from afar while all of Asia lies open is mainly cope from US side, because they know a direct attack has poor chances of success. But if US doesn't directly attack, China will push and someone else has to take the full brunt of it. So this is really just muddying the waters by saying "meh we don't know what will happen" as opposed to sending an armada to invade Taiwan, where even fairly staunch US nationalists suspect that it may become a turkey shoot.
 

JonnyJalapeno

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PRC could weather a blockade indefinitely. The only problem is oil and unlike what Youtube commentators would have you believe China actually has substantial oil production. Chinese production and Russian imports would be more than enough for warfighting and keeping vital industries like agriculture going. Electricity production would not be affected at all.

Are there any resources that russia + china would lack in case of war? Last time i've checked, RU + PRC had all the needed resources inside their territories to equip military and maintain the industry. So theoretically no need for imports like germany in WW2.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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During a joint-branch military exercise of the Eastern Theater Command conducted around the rebel island, one unidentified ROCN Chi Yang-class frigate (former Knox-class frigate) was seen pointing its cannon in the direction of an unidentified PLAN warship.

Posted by @沉默的山羊 on Weibo.

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Comparing the position of the turret on the rebel frigate when pointing ahead (top) and sideways (bottom).

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Add-on: Seems like that aforementioned rebel frigate is the ROCN FFG-937 Hwai Yang (former USS Barbey). Posted by @空军世界 on Weibo.
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Seems like someone on the rebel side is itching to sleep with the fishes...

Here's a photograph from the ROCN FFG-937 frigate Hwai Yang in the opposite direction, looking at the PLAN FFG-530 frigate Xuzhou of the 054A-class. Posted by
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aqh

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The reason for my recent postings is that I'm thinking of a way for the US to win as I just don't see how they could stop AR.

What optimal strategy do you think the US could do to perform this? If you were Milley what would you plan for to break up AR?
 

james smith esq

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The reason for my recent postings is that I'm thinking of a way for the US to win as I just don't see how they could stop AR.

What optimal strategy do you think the US could do to perform this? If you were Milley what would you plan for to break up AR?
My strategy would be to re-supply and bolster Taiwanese forces on Taiwan as much as possible without direct US action against China, almost exactly like NATO with Ukraine. Naval re-supply would have USN escort and air re-supply would have USAF escort. No firing on PLA forces unless US escorts are attacked. No attacks against the Chinese mainland.

With this, minimal/maximal effort, the US could say that it upheld its commitment, technically, while avoiding the gravest of unintended-consequences. This could be spun as a political “win” after the inevitable occurs. “We provided Taiwan with the best equipment the world had to offer; however, despite putting-up a determined, heroic, and honorable resistance, the forces of freedom and democracy could not overcome insurmountable odds. Today is a dark day for all freedom-loving people of the world!”

In a sense, Ukraine might be the model-test for future western ‘interventions‘. All the more reason that they keep pouring-n resources.
 
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FairAndUnbiased

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My strategy would be to re-supply and bolster Taiwanese forces on Taiwan as much as possible without direct US action against China, almost exactly like NATO with Ukraine. Naval re-supply would have USN escort and air re-supply would have USAF escort. No firing on PLA forces unless US escorts are attacked. No attacks against the Chinese mainland.
With this, minimal/maximal effort, the US could say that it upheld its commitment, technically, while avoiding the gravest of unintended-consequences.
how do they unload when all the ports are on the western side of Taiwan?
 

aqh

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My strategy would be to re-supply and bolster Taiwanese forces on Taiwan as much as possible without direct US action against China, almost exactly like NATO with Ukraine. Naval re-supply would have USN escort and air re-supply would have USAF escort. No firing on PLA forces unless US escorts are attacked. No attacks against the Chinese mainland.
With this, minimal/maximal effort, the US could say that it upheld its commitment, technically, while avoiding the gravest of unintended-consequences.
As mentioned by another user the ports are on the western coast. Also China can put a NFZ and no ship zone so this wouldn't even help.
 
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