PLA Small arms

Heliox

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One thing that better infantry does is it shows to other countries, when you are participating in multinational exercises, that you are a professional army. When the PLA shows up with worse gear than thailand, for example, it's not exactly a good look for the worlds's no. 2, soon to be no. 1 military. In any other case, infantry might not be high on the priority list for AR, but it's the number 1 tool for holding ground. No matter how good your air force or navy is, ultimately you will have to go in by foot and clear out houses to actually take territory and defend against insurgency. For that reason, infantry should be placed way higher on the priority list and at least be trained, equipped, and provided quality logistics up to perhaps a 2010s US standard, think a 052D or J-20 moment, but for the infantry. It's not looking good that the previous infantry equipment upgrade program was cancelled and now apparently infantry equipment is regressing back to pre-2019 equipment levels (bare helmets with new camo being seen more and more for example)

Yeah ... nah

I've been involved in a few Bilateral EX. A lot of tier II militaries, especially in South East Asia, specifically gear up the units involved in the BI-EX. Either that or the unit participating is a higher echelon/elite unit with better TO&E to start with. Their GI units could be using ALICE gear from the 70s for all you know (and up until 2010ish were still using steel pots and ALICE web from my personal observation).

My one big take away though - how much go-fast kit you are kitted out in has no relevance to how "professional" your infantry units are. Unit preparedness, motivation, discipline and outright ability to execute out in the field transcends your Gucci kit levels. Stretched example - a sloppily flown F-35 is gonna get shot down by a well drilled J-10/PL-15/KJ-500 combo all day, every day.

Bottom line. A military has a finite budget and multiple and different threats and priorities. A sane military allocates spending based on needs, not optics. If the CONOPS dictates a war of drones and directed fire, then my priority is for them to have the latest in digital, encrypted comms. Everything else, even the rifle, is secondary - go faster helmets and latest multi-cam do nothing other than score some pride points. YMMV if you instead anticipate LIC-COIN policing actions.

Go beyond the superficial and look at how needs vs wants drive these things.
 

by78

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Blank firing adapters for QCQ-171.

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The Observer

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I forgot whether these have been posted before. Here goes nothing.

A look into the structures of W85 HMG. Interesting bit starts from 08:50.


Introduction & assembly of Type 89 HMG by THE PLAGF Master Sergeant First Class who was responsible for its acceptance test in 1994. Assembly bit starts from 17:06.

 

Leakage

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Wrong thread
Maybe he shouldn't have mentioned the Ukraine War here? If we want to make poor examples and do a lot of shit talking instead of actually engaging in a reasonable discussion in this topic which has been going for some time we might as well switch this into a 4chan thread the toxicity is becoming the equivalence of that.

When r/militaryporn has more maturity than SinoDefenceForum baffles me.
 
Maybe he shouldn't have mentioned the Ukraine War here? If we want to make poor examples and do a lot of shit talking instead of actually engaging in a reasonable discussion in this topic which has been going for some time we might as well switch this into a 4chan thread the toxicity is becoming the equivalence of that.

When r/militaryporn has more maturity than SinoDefenceForum baffles me.
Previous posts already moved to Ukranian war thread, continue the discussion there please.

In any other case, infantry might not be high on the priority list for AR, but it's the number 1 tool for holding ground.
And in what scenario do you see the PLAGF needing to hold ground in the next 2-3 decades? Is India going to be charging over the Himalayas, or the South Koreans pushing through NK and across the Yalu? Or Russia sending troops across Siberia and into Manchuria? China simply has no overland threats, so makes little sense to allocate precious resources to the PLAGF that could be better invested in the AF, Navy, or RF.
 

Leakage

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New kit ignore the incompetent fool wearing the shirt wrong and C Clamping a Submachine gun.

To ensure the overall professionalism most of the image has been censored.

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