All the problem also applies for pistol. At least a machine pistol carbine can deliver better kill chance up close. There is no need for range because it is a side arm. A rear officer should not go sniping people 300m away.
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In the case of battalion level or higher officers, they definitely do not need rifles or even pdw's since that isn't part of their job. It will only get in the way. They would not only have to lug it around as they move from one location to another, but also are kept accountable for that weapon. That is one more unnecessary variable that increases the complexity of their job. Their job is to receive information, observe the battlefield, make decisions and etc, not to fight.
Also, 300 meters is within the effective range of an intermediate round like a 5.56. That is definitely not considered sniping range.
Are the same not applied to pistol?
A machine pistol when folded is really the same bulk.
Ah I see what is going on. That is a pistol conversion/enhancement kit that allows better accuracy, stability and follow up shots. That is completely different from a machine pistol, which is a pistol with semi auto and burst/full auto functions, and a SMG/PDW (which the MP9 is), which has both semi and full auto options and a different design that allows the user to shoot pistol rounds while utilizing rifle-like ergnomics. Looking back at our conversation, you mentioned a machine pistol carbine. That doesn't exist.
Yes, the conversion kit you mentioned would definitely work for those officers who want to enhance their pistols.
There are conversion kits as well as auto version outside civilian market.
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That is still different from the hypothetical SMG that you proposed. You conflated the three. A full auto conversion kit of a pistol like a Glock switch or the B&T conversion kit that you brought up only gives a previously semi auto pistol the full auto function. The latter in this case allows the pistol to retain its semi auto capability while the former doesn’t.
A machine pistol is basically that as well but doesn't require a conversion. Police officers and security personal don't use machine pistols due to instability and inaccuracy.
A SMG is a gun with the ergonomics of a rifle, and it can use pistol ammunition. It has superior stability and range. However it is bulkier than a pistol.
All in all, I can see enhancement/conversion kits enhancing an officer's firepower without the drawbacks I previously mentioned. However I can't see the others working given their drawbacks.
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You are not putting a smg on your pants like a pistol holster. This thing can. It weighs 1.5kg like a pistol. Police officer can use SBR and smg because convenience for every day carry is non issue.
You brought up the MP9 which is a SMG that I addressed. As for the weight of a pistol, a Glock 19 weighs 0.855 kg loaded. So, no, there is a weight difference.
Sorry that was 1.2kg. I was bad with imperial system.