PLA Small arms

Blitzo said:

To clarify, I'm not saying LPVOs (or LPVO with small red dot) are the perfect optics setup for all scenarios.
There are absolutely cases were a proper red dot or holographic sight are better (+/- magnifier), or cases where a prism sight is more practical or more cost effective.

What I am saying is that if the purpose is to have a variable optic for an assault rifle or DMR (which looks like what this one is intended for?, then in TYOOL 2023, not having a 1x magnification seems like an oversight.
I am aware that of course DMRs with variable optics without 1x magnification also exist, including recent ones, but there is also a spectrum of DMRs.

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Ah I see. Thanks for the clarification. In that case, it could be due to a cost issue, the idea that the scope is too heavy to use in a close quarters environment, or both.

Blitzo said:

As for the glass of Chinese made branded LPVOs, I personally have not read anything definitive, and in fact I've read they are imported from Japan.

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For Primary Arms, the Platinum ones are made in Japan while the budget ones are made in China. For Vortex, some of their high powered scopes are made in China, not LPVO's. Like what you said, their LPVO's are made in Japan. My bad.

LawLeadsToPeace said:

There was a huge debate in the US gun community about LPVO's vs Prism sight + Red Dot combinations. For example, LPVO's are more fragile in design than Prism optics and its 1x magnfication isn't as good as red dots. In addition, the latter is still lighter than the lightest former. The only major pro about LPVO's is its variable zoom. In short, I think the PLA does understand it and balanced the pros and cons along with feedback from troops that tested the equipment in force on force training and tests.

For LPVO's, considering the fact that budget/entry Primary Arms and Vortex Optics source from China (and they are really good for its price), I highly doubt that.

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The debate between LPVOs (Low Power Variable Optics) and Prism sights + Red Dot combinations in the US gun community is quite interesting. It largely comes down to personal preference and the specific use case. LPVOs offer versatility with adjustable magnification for mid to long-range shooting, while Prism sights and Red Dot combos provide quick target acquisition for close-quarters engagements. Both have their pros and cons, and the choice often depends on the shooter's needs and intended application.

BoraTas said:

Turkey buys some other guns (PKM, AKM, etc...) from China to donate to the groups it is sponsoring in Africa and the Middle East.

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That is a very serious claim. Do you have evidence to back it up?

MwRYum said:

Knowing Turkey's active support of insurgent elements in Xinjiang, you ain't convincing anyone that those two are good chumps with each other...

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Sino Turkish military cooperation have far deeper roots than you assume and began at a time when china is thought to be worse than africa. Thus as government policies are concerned, we will never support the "Uygur PKK". Those mongrels are trained and fought alongside PKK against us in Syria, this places them solidly on enemy side.

However there are some groups in Turkey who happen to be much louder than their size suggests support this cause. They also happen to -coincidentally of course- always bark loudly against people US embassy here is snarling at. Any attempt of discussion with them turns quickly into a fight in mud and they enjoy it. We are used to it, steer clear of them and do not take these buffoons seriously (Consider them as turkish Modi with all the Jai Hind stuff). After Libyan and Syrian disasters, normal people will be ashamed to show their faces in public but these go on and on. One got to eat after all and their trade, although not honorable, puts bread on the table. Not approved, but understanded, and tolerated as one tolerates mosquitoes since swamp can not be drained -yet-.