What is frontier force? Never heard of that before.
PLA Small arms
- Thread starter Vanguard1688
- Start date
Forces like those at the border to India? Possibly ones that might be 'first in-line' in case Taiwan has to be taken militarily?
Overall, it seems like change to QBZ-191 and in general the newer rifles is taking place, but since the PLA has quite a lot of personnel, it's still only taking place gradually.
And the replacement of older rifles with newer is also taking place in units that are more elite/more likely to see combat/'first in-line' to combat, which is sensible.
Thanks, I suppose all border guards and coast guards type fall under that branch?
Very likely, and it also makes a lot of sense it's like that.
I mean border patrols
PeoplesPoster
Junior Member
this is literally a toy.I wonder if this will just stay niche or get widespread adoption in the future:
China pioneers portable electromagnetic gun, sets development trend for future weapons
By
Published: Apr 03, 2023 09:36 PM
A type of electromagnetic gun developed by China undergoes preparations at a shooting range for a firing test. Photo: Screenshot from CCTV
A type of portable electromagnetic riot gun developed by China recently went through a firing test and displayed traits superior to traditional firearms, including low noise, little muzzle flash and low recoil, with experts saying on Monday that the technology marks a development trend for future weapons.
The gun uses nine coils to accelerate projectiles, which are stored in a magazine behind the coils, Lei Fengqiao, an employee at Chongqing Jianshe Industry (Group) Co Ltd under the state-owned China South Industries Group Co Ltd, said in a program on China Central Television (CCTV) on Sunday.
Unlike traditional firearms that fire round bullets, the electromagnetic gun fires projectiles shaped like a coin, as the gun is designed for riot control purposes rather than causing lethal damage, Lei said.
Coin-shaped projectiles will less likely cause penetration damage, have a larger spread, which makes the gun more suppressive, and are easy to manufacture at an inexpensive price, he said.
The munitions are also easy to carry and do not use gunpowder, which makes them easy to store and transport, CCTV said.
A built-in lithium battery provides power to the gun. A fully charged cell allows the gun to fire hundreds of rounds consecutively before a fast recharge, and temperature has little effect on it, CCTV reported.
The grip is set at the middle of the gun to balance the weight, while at the front of the gun are three buttons that can switch between different firing modes, change power output, and turn on and off, Lei said.
A small screen on the gun shows its status, including battery usage, munition usage, temperature and firing mode. It has an automatic mode, a semi-automatic mode and a shotgun mode, the CCTV report shows.
A rail on the top of the gun allows it to be equipped with scopes and calibration devices of the operator's choice to assist in aiming, Lei said.
Surpassing the rate of fire of traditional rifles, which is about 700 to 800 rounds per minute, the electromagnetic gun's top rate of fire can reach several thousand rounds per minute.
The weapon attracted public attention after it made its debut at the Airshow China 2022 in Zhuhai, South China's Guangdong Province.
In a firing test, the electromagnetic gun easily destroyed wooden planks, beer bottles and car windows, had low noise and little muzzle flash, gave off no smoke or bullet shells, and had low recoil, CCTV reported.
Lei said that the electromagnetic launch technology is characterized by high stealth, which is the direction of development for future weapons.
In addition to riot guns, electromagnetic launch technology can also be applied to other weapons such as lethal guns, from handheld guns to large-caliber artillery, a Beijing-based military expert told the Global Times on Monday, requesting anonymity.
China has reportedly been testing a warship-mounted electromagnetic railgun. Another possible application is for air defense, due to its high rate of fire, the expert said.
That's most "rail guns" of this size, due to limitations in energy storage, it will never be viable without super conducting material and if super conductors are cheap enough to be used in infantry rifles, we'll already be living in some post-scarcity utopia.
Last edited:
I doubt even with high temperature superconductors it would be viable.
A standard NATO 5.56x45 4 g (62 gr) M855A1 FMJBT has around 1859J or 1.859kJ when fired.
Assuming that 1mAh = 3.6J of power
I'm going to use this battery for my calculations because at 1KG it is reasonably heavy. It has a capacity of 6000mAh and delivers 14.8V.
mAh x Voltage x 3.6 = Joules
6000mAh x 14.8 x 3.6 = 319680 or 319.68kJ of energy
That is about 172 5.56 NATO rounds which is pretty bad given that you have to spend quite a long time recharging the battery and that the battery weighs a ton and has shit energy density compared to something like smokeless gunpowder that is used in 5.56. This is being generous and assuming a 100% energy conversion which is unlikely. Not to mention the logistics would be a nightmare. And all of this just to be comparable to normal rifle bullets. In order to justify its existence, it has to be better than normal rifle rounds.
(apologies if there are any math mistakes)
