I love Holosun using the American market to make a ton of money and refine the PLA's optics. That's neat.
PLA Small arms
- Thread starter Vanguard1688
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Well I doubt the PLA is interested in handgun optics
I believe the user was referring to Holosun as a whole, not just the optic.
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SinoSoldier
Colonel
What does Holosun have to do with PLA optics?
I did some more digging around, and I think I found the corresponding Holosun sights: HM3X Magnifier + HS510 series open reflex. The pair was . If the PLA procures them, the price of course would be cheaper, likely considerably so.
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Note the open reflex sights.
Pretty self explanatory.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Interesting. Generally Camouflaging rifles is more of an SF thing. For mass production it’s better if the makers switched to a tan or olive matte finish on production. I mean these days most rifles and military small arms are in large part polymer it’s easy to make that any color of the rainbow. Metallic coatings are easily sourced in Tan or Olive with modern types bonding to the steel at the molecular level well able to hold color and deflect extra radiant heat from sunlight.Camouflage for small arms.
In cases where painting is done a number of possible issues occur. First if done improperly you are adding layers of foreign materials to a machine. Semi automatic rifles don’t like added friction. Intermediate caliber weapons because of their want of easy recoil can be jammed up fairly easily by a such. Farther parts like selector switch’s could be gummed up in an attempt which would impede operation. In the upper photo we see that areas of the QBZ95 are left unpainted in the black which is how it’s normally done so as to not cause said problems. The ejection port, the charging handle.
What’s weird is is best bud seems to have done the inverse? The guy in the bottom photo right with the mostly black rifle clearly has a camouflaged ejection port cover. I mean it’s almost like camouflaged rifle guy and black rifle guy swapped parts? Though it may not be “Gucci” to some, frankly camouflaging the ejection port cover is pretty point less. I mean if you can tell the difference you are already close enough to see past the effect of the camouflage anyway.
That can be remedied via masking tape. Every person always use masking tape to cover up the selector switch, ejection, and any exposed area prior to painting.
As for the classification of those guys, the guy on the left is holding a QLU-11 which is used by SOF units. Based on that and their camouflage, I think they are part of a SOF brigade that is attached to their parent Group Army. Plus, no quartermaster would want to deal with hundreds of thousands of poorly painted rifles. I guarantee you that the Chinese are similar to the US in this regard.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Which is likely why the black parts. Taping over.
The US Military has issued instructions to those regular grunts that felt the need to do so including guidance on taping. Of course common sense is a super power.
Newly adopted US arms starting in about 2006 started getting tan coatings as opposed to the legacy black. The M17, M18, M240 Lima, M2010, M110, M110A1, Mk17 Scar, Mk22 ASR, NGSW prototypes have all come from the factory in tan. Only exception being the M27 of the USMC.
Less need to camouflage if the weapon comes from the factory in such. Farther it means armors don’t need to try an clean off the weapons. Though it won’t offer the entire line of colors one might find in there camouflage uniforms and the like. It offers a good base. Farther the advantage isn’t just visible. Black shows up sharper in NIR vision systems and in direct sunlight black absorbs a lot of IR. The gun gets hot and in places like equatorial desert regions handling such is rather unpleasant. It’s bad enough that after firing it gets even hotter.
Makes me wonder if the PLA will ever adopt a tan QBZ 191. Maybe in the gen. 2 if we're lucky.