PLA Organization & Structure discussion
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Can someone help confirm the accuracy of this video? I'm currently trying to note down what equipment goes where in PLAGF
I can't verify it, but Battle Order's past videos have been reasonably accurate. In particular, his video on the Russian BTG was sufficiently accurate in my opinion. The sourcing he provided in the video was also quite good, but exclusively based on english language sources.
What this tells me, is that Battle Order does not rely on primary sources, probably because he only speaks English. In respect to Russia or France this is fine, because there is sufficient expertise available in English that's reasonably up to date and accurate. I can verify that because I am fluent in Russian and I have examined primary sources myself.
This might be very different when it comes to China, because as far as I can tell, there are very few experts who truly understand China. Thus, I would be hesitant about trusting this video unless it is verified by some of the experts on this forum.
A bit out of date in some regards like underestimating the proliferation of self propelled 122mm guns and I think he overestimates how many towed 122mms are still in service as well as towed 152/155mms.
Some of the specs and assumptions for certain systems are also directly taken from older export catalogues, which are almost certainly not reflective of current in service PLA variants.
(one thing the video didn't touch on which I felt was an oversight, was just how many and how quickly PCL-181s have entered service -- the PCL-181 has added a lot of 155mm tubes to the PLA)
Compared to your run of the mill non-PLA oriented military watcher, it's not bad but still has some out of date aspects.
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I'm mainly using the video to confirm which artillery goes where, i.e. 120mm Mortar in Battalion, 122mm Howitzer in Brigade, and 155mm Howitzer in Group Army.
For the range & payload info, I'm taking it with a grain of salt because as you said, that could easily change depending on the shell/charge used.
p.s. Any info on Artillery structure in XMD and TMD? like in their regiment/division?
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The four Combined Arms Divisions of XMD have Firepower Regiments with two PCL181 Battalions, one PHL11 MLRS Battalion and AD Battalions in addition
TMD, XMD, ETC's Group Army Artillery Brigades are likely to have the ORBAT of 4 MLRS (2 PHLO3, 2 PCL191- not completed), 2 155mm Howitzer PCL181 Battalions while they continue to hold old PL66 152mm Artillery Battalions in addition
The four Combined Arms Divisions of XMD have Firepower Regiments with two PCL181 Battalions, one PHL11 MLRS Battalion and AD Battalions in addition
It was to a Tweet that must have been removed. The Tweet had a picture of the ORBAT.