PLA Next Generation Main Battle Tank

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vincent

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dasCKD said:
It'll still be cheap compared to the rest of the tank, and would need to be added either way due to the need for machine guns to engage infantry. Drones themselves, specifically companies like DJI, is instructive in this regard because they have shown that sensors and actuators with a high refresh rate is more than sufficient to keep a drone stable even against averse and unexpected directional changes, and I don't see why such systems can't be replicated on an MG station especially since you can spend way more per unit than you could on a drone.

Vibrations can be managed in the same way, especially if the gun is self-guided with an aligned camera to just point and shoot instead of plugged into a complicated ballistics computer system. Drones only need to be engaged at a hundred meters or so, after all. You can use a fused system with an MM wave radar and camera setup to get even more data into the drone, whilst requiring only very rudimentary AI to adjust gun angle even if there's drift from poor maintenance or damage. You can even make the gun do conical fire, if you don't want to use programmable airburst munitions.
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FPVs can fly in zigzag patterns. Pretty sure they can move much more quickly than the servo of the RWS can shift the gun. Electric motors don’t just turn and stop on a dime, they oscillate back and-forth when you tell them to stop at a certain position (The only thing I remember from the control system course in university). Good luck trying to keep up with the FPVs’ movements.
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Tons of videos from the Ukraine theatre have shown rifles are useless against drones. Even shotguns have limited success against them.
 
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Heliox said:
Wasn't your claim that Birdshot will easily go over a hundred? So ... YES - Come to me and I will let you shoot at me with #9 at a 100m and a 2mm sheet of ABS plastic in front of me. The spread at 100m is going to be big, there'll only be a few pellets within 1m of me. The energy will be so lame, it won't even bother me behind a 2mm sheet of ABS plastic (typical drone body material?). I'm willing to go at 40m too - if I get to wear eyepro and thick clothes (on top of the 2mm ABS sheet).
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Birdshot @ 100 yards ~ 91 meters - probably won't even break skin:

 
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valysre

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Birdshot, even at relatively close distances, is not too dangerous to humans, so long as it doesn't get the eyes. Now, I can't speak for drones, but I'm not convinced that a drone could be reliably disabled by birdshot, at least going off of the birdshot injuries I've seen on humans.
 
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