PLA next/6th generation fighter thread

ChineseToTheBone

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I was attempting to reason out why a new fighter jet could even look ugly these days given how nearly everything aerodynamic looks good from planes to automobiles.
CNSA has been testing its reusable space plane repeatedly over the past few years and maybe the Chinese aviation industry was able to learn from its operations to design a craft with reusable space capabilities,
 

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I was attempting to reason out why a new fighter jet could even look ugly these days given how nearly everything aerodynamic looks good from planes to automobiles.

That's easy. Ask Boeing to design it. I mean, have you seen the X-32? I have a feeling had the X-32 become the F-32, it'd have become the Fugly Guppy as its nickname, even after the changes they planned.
 

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I was attempting to reason out why a new fighter jet could even look ugly these days given how nearly everything aerodynamic looks good from planes to automobiles.
CNSA has been testing its reusable space plane repeatedly over the past few years and maybe the Chinese aviation industry was able to learn from its operations to design a craft with reusable space capabilities,

Looking ugly could mean anything.

It's strange that you would entertain it would mean rocket assisted or near space operations as an answer for it.

Much more likely answers is that a design may look interesting or aesthetically displeasing to an individual specifically.
 

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It's strange that you would entertain it would mean rocket assisted or near space operations as an answer for it.
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I have never heard of space related fighter jet rumours before and related it being ugly to it being a space plane.
 

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I strongly suspect if anything flies in the next year it will be more of an exploratory platform than a mature representation of whatever concepts and requirements they’re developing. It may simply be that the aerodynamic development is more ready than everything else about the program.

Are you thinking of 2001 or something like a Darpa project? I think it's most likely that whatever we will see is a demonstrator.

But I would imagine the general aerodynamic configuration should be more or less decided by this point. If anything, this is basically proceeding in the same time line as we saw with J-10B and J-20 where the former came out 2 years earlier and was basically testing out some of the electronics concept that would later be on J-20.

We've had a huge leap in the past 2 to 3 years in the semiconductor technology for 3rd generation semiconductor materials, AI inference chips and such. Also with heat dissipation/cooling and such. Concepts around man machine pairing are at least developed by this point. So all the building blocks are ready for 6th gen from this point of view.

In terms of material science, they now have T800G carbon fiber in mass production. I think they will get to T1100 pretty soon. That's likely the best they can get to for a decade.

I don't know enough to comment on the stealth shaping and aerodynamics and such.
 

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I have never heard of space related fighter jet rumours before and related it being ugly to it being a space plane.

No offense but that's a skill issue, both on their part and also your part.

There are no rumours suggesting let alone even mildly hinting J-XD would be a space capable fighter or rocket powered in any form.

It's not a secret that China is pursuing high hypersonic and near space propulsion systems, but there is no indication those would be applied on the next gen/6th gen fighter.


My advice is just to obliterate that idea from your memory.
 

latenlazy

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Are you thinking of 2001 or something like a Darpa project? I think it's most likely that whatever we will see is a demonstrator.

But I would imagine the general aerodynamic configuration should be more or less decided by this point. If anything, this is basically proceeding in the same time line as we saw with J-10B and J-20 where the former came out 2 years earlier and was basically testing out some of the electronics concept that would later be on J-20.

We've had a huge leap in the past 2 to 3 years in the semiconductor technology for 3rd generation semiconductor materials, AI inference chips and such. Also with heat dissipation/cooling and such. Concepts around man machine pairing are at least developed by this point. So all the building blocks are ready for 6th gen from this point of view.

In terms of material science, they now have T800G carbon fiber in mass production. I think they will get to T1100 pretty soon. That's likely the best they can get to for a decade.

I don't know enough to comment on the stealth shaping and aerodynamics and such.
Ehhhh not DARPA X plane but maybe not as mature as 200X? Being aware of how open ended 6th gen capabilities definitions are just makes me extremely skeptical and cautious about any indication that they know exactly what they’re building and what they want this early. That’s just my gut check opinion though.
 
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