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Lethe

Captain
Anyway, Ma Weiming is an electrical system, IPS and electromagnetic propulsion expert. He's not a naval architecture so one should take he's ideas with a grain of salt. There are lots of take in China about his 全能舰 concept but the most reasonable one I've seen is the argument that too much of a warship's internal space is devoted to storing chemical energy currently, weather that's fuel for the engines, propellant for main gun and point defence guns and solid fuel in missile's rocket motors. Compared to nuclear power chemical energy storage are extremely bulky and dangerous.

Instead in a 全能舰 almost all of the ship's energy comes from powerful onboard nuclear reactor, distributed out to subsystems via IPS. Propulsion is electric, main gun is replaced with railgun, point defence 1130 is replaced with laser DEW, even the VLS has some sort of electromagnetic catapult system built in to give the missile an big burst of initial kinetic energy so the rocket motor could be smaller. I think the plan also called for some sort of coilgun to defend against approaching torpedoes.

That way space usage inside the ship is optimised, instead of 30mm and main gun ammo storage taking up space and not contributing anything during a missile slinging contest, you just have an oversized reactor and switch power around the ship as needed.

As a conceptual schematic of what may one day be possible, serving to contextualise all the myriad advancements required to get there e.g. DEW CIWS, this is fine. As a major development program, it would be catastrophic. This would repeat the Ford/Zumwalt/LCS debacles of integrating multiple unproven technologies simultaneously, but on a much larger and altogether more ruinous scale.
 

Skywatcher

Captain
I also don't think the Type 055 follow up major surface combatant will have submersible capability (you're going to have to do additional work on a lot of systems to completely waterproof them, all for what are probably marginal gains in RCS reduction)
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
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I also don't think the Type 055 follow up major surface combatant will have submersible capability (you're going to have to do additional work on a lot of systems to completely waterproof them, all for what are probably marginal gains in RCS reduction)
much of any ship is already underwater though, and reducing above water height really does reduce RCS substantially You can raise the mast to compensate for the lower sensor horizon.
 

by78

General
Another image of that mystery ship/boat.

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Helius

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Sorry if this has been discussed in the ASW or Z-20 threads, but how much utility is there for a Z-20F (ASW variant) when the Ka-28 already has higher payload capacity and longer range? Esp. when the Ka-28 already out-performs other helos in its class anyway, like the SH-60/H-60, and by a large margin at that.

It seems all the Z-20 has going for it is its faster speed and service ceiling, and that it's a new build. But pretty much everything else seems inferior to the Ka-27 platform.
 
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