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manqiangrexue

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the current scales tip heavily in favor of the United States in all sectors: military, political, economic, industrial, & cultural.
Very very questionable statement. Whatever cultural and political power the US has, Trump is wrecking it by each meeting. Militarily, MAD is the end-all-be-all. The US wouldn't risk self-sacrifice to fight the Soviets; neither do they with China, and every day that risk grows. Economically, China is growing faster with a much larger PPP, which overshadows nominal more and more as trade is restricted, which is Trump's way. Industrial, don't even joke about that; no country can out-manufacture China.
China may be vying for time but she only does that because she knows any misunderstanding would spell tragic consequences for the PLA.
China's vying for time because it's growing stronger much faster than her rival is. In comparison, American seems to be tearing itself down in some areas if simply growing slower isn't enough. Why wouldn't you want to wait given this trend?
Ask yourself why China's leaders have been relatively silent on the USN's "show of force" and why China's military activities & intrusions have died down in recent times.
You must be reading fake news; remember the destroyer incident? China didn't back down; the US left and threw a hissy fit. China's still patrolling, still arming its islands. It's sending spy ships to US exercises right out in the open and the US doesn't do anything about it. When the Chinese navy sails close to the US coast, the US says, that's still international waters and the Chinese have the right to be there. When America sent a drone to the SCS, China seized it. What else do you want?

Silent on the "show of force"? What can they say? "Boo on you, leave Asia!" or "Clap clap, good job; pretty boats you got there!"? What would a strong and confident power say, other than give a silent nonchalant shrug?
 
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gelgoog

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BRI has already had several major successes. Just the amount of port facilities the Chinese either built or acquired worldwide is one of those successes.

With regards to Made in China 2025 it is a major initiative, which had already been pursued with success to a degree on several strategic sectors like transportation or electric generation, but they plan to extend it to leading edge semiconductors. I think that will likely be a mixed bag. Some things like chip making factories need a lot of government investment. But there is a lack of Chinese chip design firms outside the state and college sector. Without commercial competition I think those sectors will not become viable. There is Huawei but China needs more companies including DRAM, NAND Flash, MRAM, GPU designers, etc. Also a lot is talked about AI chip investments. But I know for a fact that the USA DARPA is heavily investing more specifically on so called graph processors. Which might or might nor work out but have more applications than the traditional AI learning accelerators we have seen so far. China also not does have a national semiconductor machine tool manufacturer. Or EDA software tools makers that I know of.

Besides Huawei, other companies could be drivers in these sectors, like Lenovo for example. The Chinese government could easily make this work by making a similar requirement to the USA government. i.e. they could demand that all equipment suppliers to the Chinese government use a certain minimum amount of Chinese made content.
 
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Two Navy warships transit Taiwan Strait

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“We have no information indicating now any unsafe or unprofessional behavior from China,” Lt. Col. Chris Logan, a Pentagon spokesman, said during a press briefing Monday.

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Following Monday’s transit, Chinese officials had not yet issued a response.
 

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A couple of interior shots of the new Chinese naval training ship...

But first, a photo of the exterior:
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“We have no information indicating now any unsafe or unprofessional behavior from China,” Lt. Col. Chris Logan, a Pentagon spokesman, said during a press briefing Monday.

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Following Monday’s transit, Chinese officials had not yet issued a response.
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China closely monitored the situation as US warships sailed through
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on Mon and expressed concerns to the US side, Foreign Ministry said on Tue, urging the US to adhere to the one-China principle and three joint communiqués and prudently handle Taiwan-related issues

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Hendrik_2000

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BRI has already had several major successes. Just the amount of port facilities the Chinese either built or acquired worldwide is one of those successes.

With regards to Made in China 2025 it is a major initiative, which had already been pursued with success to a degree on several strategic sectors like transportation or electric generation, but they plan to extend it to leading edge semiconductors. I think that will likely be a mixed bag. Some things like chip making factories need a lot of government investment. But there is a lack of Chinese chip design firms outside the state and college sector. Without commercial competition I think those sectors will not become viable. There is Huawei but China needs more companies including DRAM, NAND Flash, MRAM, GPU designers, etc. Also a lot is talked about AI chip investments. But I know for a fact that the USA DARPA is heavily investing more specifically on so called graph processors. Which might or might nor work out but have more applications than the traditional AI learning accelerators we have seen so far. China also not does have a national semiconductor machine tool manufacturer. Or EDA software tools makers that I know of.

Besides Huawei, other companies could be drivers in these sectors, like Lenovo for example. The Chinese government could easily make this work by making a similar requirement to the USA government. i.e. they could demand that all equipment suppliers to the Chinese government use a certain minimum amount of Chinese made content.

A lot of inaccuracy and ignorance in your post China does not lack chip designer there are all kind of Chip designer socall fabless chip design company in China The problem is manufacturing and not chip design
Because it take a lot of money to built those semiconductor fab for a small margin of profit
In the past most Chinese private company does not have the money or the motivation to build those expensive fab
Preferring to source it out from the US of Taiwan. So only government has the money and will to build it
Now with ZTE debacle they change their mind set but a bit too late But fortunately the government effort start to pay off 2 big FAB are about to start production one in Fujian and one in Shanghai

And you are wrong China did have a complete semiconductor equipment manufacturer They are not as good as ASML but getting there . I posted it in Technology thread
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Shanghai's Biggest Chip Project Starts Production
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DATE: FRI, 10/19/2018 - 13:59 / SOURCE:YICAI

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Shanghai's Biggest Chip Project Starts Production

(Yicai Global)Oct. 19 -- Huali Microelectronics, Shanghai's largest investment project for making integrated circuits, has finished its almost two-year construction period and started operations yesterday.

Total investment of the project which focuses on the production of logical nodes has reached CNY38.7 billion (USD5.5 billion), state-backed Shanghai Observer reported. The construction of the 12-inch advanced wafer silicon assembly line started in December 2016.

The value of integrated circuit industry will top CNY200 billion by 2020, according to Shanghai's municipal plan. The sector was valued at CNY120 billion last year, making up about 20 percent of the country's total.

Huali's assembly line covers nodes in a scale from 28 to 14 nanometers with a monthly capacity of 40,000 wafers. The parent's manufacturing capability will cover these central chip process technologies ranging from 14 nm to 0.5 nm.

The levels of production and engineering will be among the world's top five, the report added.
 

Hendrik_2000

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There are all kind of project to built FAB in China now That is what precipitate this trade war because the silicon valley know the writing on the wall They see it coming Once China set their mind they will go gangbuster via JSCh

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Analyst calls for more U.S. investment and engagement
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Handel Jones just got back from China, and he doesn’t like how the techno-politics are playing out.

China’s middle class is getting riled up by
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They are increasingly passionate about a government move to invest in its technological independence from the U.S.

The veteran semiconductor analyst said that President Trump needs to take a page from President Reagan’s playbook and significantly increase federal investment in U.S. technology. “The
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is good, but we need something that’s 10 or even 100 times that size,” said Jones.

Reagan invested in big tech programs like the B-1 bomber, Star Wars missile defenses, and the global positioning system. They reinforced a position of technological superiority of the U.S. over the former Soviet Union.

Today, China is outspending the U.S. It is ramping programs worth hundreds of billions of dollars in areas such as AI and semiconductors and other projects under its
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The spending in chips alone is breathtaking. China’s largest foundry, SMIC, is expected to get $10 billion to ramp up 14-, 10- and 7-nm nodes in new fabs that could kick out 70,000 wafers/month by late 2021.

Like many China initiatives, it’s not clear if the bold bet on SMIC will succeed. The foundry apparently has not yet been able to produce a FinFET process, although
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to develop a 14-nm node with help from imec and Qualcomm.

Now, SMIC reportedly will rely on Taiwan’s UMC for 14-nm technology and its follow-ons. Market success is another hurdle given that TSMC is already seeing a steep decline in its 10-nm sales, noted Jones.

SMIC is one of China’s largest semiconductor gambits, but it has several others. Huada Semiconductor, a maker of chips for smart cards, could get $7 to $14 billion as part of a plan to bring up 28-nm processes with new local partners and management, said Jones.

Shanghai Jita Semiconductor, a subsidiary of Huada and China Electronics Corp., announced plans to build 200-mm and 300-mm fabs for analog and power semiconductors in Shanghai in a deal worth a total of $5.18 billion, according to a September report from the U.S. SEMI trade group.

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in Shanghai, Grace is building a new fab in Wuxi, and Yangtze Memory
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to take significant market share in NAND flash.

The China investments come at a bad time for the American semiconductor industry.

Intel, the largest semiconductor firm in the U.S., is
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, and one of its more promising investments is in FD-SOI technology, which it is ramping up in Germany
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President Reagan used big U.S. investments to get an edge over the Soviet Union, which was said to have nearly bankrupted itself trying to keep up. The situation is very different with a well-heeled and still growing China.

Rather than alienate the China government and its people, the U.S. should adopt a more collaborative approach, suggested Jones. He advocated an approach of working with China while also ratcheting up federal technology investment.

— Rick Merritt, Silicon Valley Bureau Chief,
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Hendrik_2000

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Nation in big semiconductor push

2018-05-23 09:38:05 China Daily

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Technicians check chips at a technology company in Guigang, the Guangxi Zhuang autonomous region. (Photo by Tan Kaixing/for China Daily)

At least 46 big-budget semiconductor projects are scheduled to be built in China within two to three years, as part of the nation's broader push to reduce reliance on foreign chip manufacturing and design techniques, according to data compiled from local governments' key 2018 project plans.

The move comes as China is expediting its research and development of core chip technologies, narrowing the gap between its integrated circuit industry and those of the world's leading nations in this field.

To realize the goal, a number of provinces and municipalities are seeking to attract semiconductor companies to build factories and R&D centers.

In Guangdong province, two semiconductor projects are under construction and will be completed by 2020, with a combined investment of 18.6 billion yuan ($2.92 billion). Another two projects are scheduled to break ground this year, with their total investment reaching 4.6 billion yuan, according to the province's 2018 key project plans.

Meanwhile, 15 chip-related projects are either under construction or will be built in Jiangsu province, including plants that make chips for cameras and automobiles, as well as factories producing semiconductor equipment.

Companies such as Tsinghu Unigroup and SK Hynix are participating in these projects.

In Anhui province, two semiconductor projects will be constructed, with combined investment of 3 billion yuan, according to the province's key project plans for this year.

The intensified push comes as China attaches growing importance to chips-which lie inside a wide range of products and power mobile phones, computers, automobiles and other equipment. In recent years, China has spent more than $200 billion on imported chips annually, more than it spends on crude oil imports.

The Ministry of Industry and Information Technology said it would ramp up resources to help build a string of semiconductor innovation platforms that can integrate talents and capital to speed up development.

Also, a national innovation center for smart sensors will be built to overcome crucial technological bottlenecks, the electronics information department of the ministry said in its 2018 working plan.

Li Guojie, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering, said the research and development of chips mirrors China's overall technological level.

"Though it will take time for us to catch up with leading foreign countries, consistent input of resources and R&D will help accelerate the process."

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