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FORBIN

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Getting the sub's acoustic signature does not represent a "compromising" of the sub, since that signature could already have been obtained long ago. The point isn't to not give away your sub's unique signature, but to keep it from being detected in general during the course of operational deployments. Being able to distinguish one unique signature from another makes little to no difference in an enemy's decision about whether or not to send a torpedo or five up your rear end during a shooting war.
Indeed but remains boring for PLAN and mainly a new SSN Class in fact variant in service since only 3 years and if CO overstepped his mission by coming too close of the Shenkakus it is a grave fault ! i don't think acording events. But all is very difficult to know with submarines matters.
Only a thing is certain if Japan Navy have US Navy have yet all datas... via Yokosuka...
But never see on a Sub a flag also large LOL

Seems so. The post says something like "the first batch will come from Shanghai".
Nice. Is this the rumored 054B?
Don't do mind but you trust a drawing as it ? i need more proofs
 
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Hendrik_2000

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“This is an excellent video and debunk the myth propagated by western analyst and media that China need the help of Ukraine or any other country
Which is mostly BS since they are not allowed to help China in anyway by you know who
In the end it is the Chinese people themselves as represented by the scientist that bootstrap themselves and do it. They need to sedn this video to all those pontificating analyst likeFisher, Ericcson etc
Like they say Zhunguo renmin wan wan swe”.

This quote sounds a lot like you think the wrongdoing is what analysts say about China.

Anything wrong with that statement? and Anyone who is taking offence to that statement must have some serious problem.You put the word in my mouth about indignation and I say yes I do have problem with people disparaging China's achievement

This article below confirm that the sub ignore request to surface. It is more and more look like showing the flag
Chinese submarine near Senkakus ignored warnings, Japan says
Presence of powerful long-range nuclear vessel riles Japan
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The Chinese submarine surfaced and raised the national flag once it reached the East China Sea. (Photo courtesy of Japanese Ministry of Defense)

TOKYO -- A Chinese nuclear submarine spotted near the Senkaku Islands on Thursday failed to acknowledge repeated warnings from Japan, Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera said Monday.



The vessel sailed through the contiguous zone adjoining Japanese territorial waters around the uninhabited islands, which China claims as the Diaoyu. It is not a violation of international law for vessels to enter this type of zone, a band of water stretching up to 12 nautical miles from the outer edge of territorial waters. But incursions can be read as a threat to territorial waters.

The Maritime Self-Defense Force "issued repeated warnings" informing the sub that it was in the contiguous zone, Onodera said. "It is unacceptable" that the vessel "ignored our warnings and continued its passage," he said.

The presence of a Shang-class nuclear submarine, able to travel long distances and difficult to detect when underwater, was particularly alarming to Japan. These vessels can be armed with long-range cruise missiles capable of reaching faraway targets on land. Unless Japan can quickly detect when such a missile is fired, intercepting it in time may not be possible.

The sail-through seems to have been a show of power by China's military, according to a Japanese government source, given that the vessel surfaced and raised a Chinese flag once exiting the contiguous zone into the East China Sea. "The Maritime Self-Defense Force is constantly monitoring the area around the Senkakus," and the submarine "likely sailed the route aware of the likelihood that it would be detected," the source said.

Others have suggested that the sub may have been conducting drills for a landing on the Senkakus or collecting information on the area's topography.

Onodera would not speculate on the motivation for China's move, saying, "There is no need to guess."

(Nikkei)
 
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it's the same outlet which quadrupled Bhutan's GDP
#19 AndrewS, Aug 24, 2017
China woos Bhutan with $10 billion in standoff with India

Beijing seen driving wedge in New Delhi-Thimphu alliance
YUJI KURONUMA, Nikkei staff writer

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NEW DELHI -- Locked in a two-month border standoff with India and tiny Bhutan in the Himalayas, China is offering its little neighbor $10 billion in economic assistance to soften its stance.

Sources say that since the offer, Bhutan has toned down its allegations that China is violating its territorial claims.

The development complicates Bhutan's relations with India, which blocked Chinese troops after Bhutan, -- a long-time security ally of India's -- notified New Delhi that the troops were attempting to construct a road in a part of the Doklam Plateau claimed by both China and Bhutan.

India and China have accused each other of violating the border, with troops from both countries in a face-off since June. Winning over Bhutan would lend more credence to their claims, and it appears Beijing's overture is having the desired effect. Speaking to Indian reporters earlier this month, a Chinese diplomat said that Bhutan clearly acknowledged to Beijing that the area where Indian troops entered is not part of Bhutan.

If the claim is correct, it would signal a weakening of ties between India and Bhutan.

Although a Bhutanese government official immediately issued a denial to Indian media, New Delhi remains unconvinced. A government source told the Nikkei early this month that China's $10 billion package -- which includes a grant, low-interest loans and direct investment -- is tempting Bhutan.

When External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj met with her Bhutanese counterpart, Damcho Dorji, on Aug. 11 on the sidelines of a regional meeting, she told Dorji not to be betrayed by China, asking further that Bhutan retain its alliance with India. Dorji, however, only said that he hoped the standoff would be resolved peacefully and amicably, refraining from any comment that would provoke China.

In June, Bhutan's foreign ministry blasted China, saying that the construction work violates an agreement between the two countries.

The Chinese government-backed tabloid Global Times later ran an editorial referencing Dorji's comment and stating that Bhutan clearly wants to maintain neutral in its criticism of India.

China is wooing Bhutan in order to validate its presence in Doklam. India sent troops only after Bhutan claimed that China had started construction work in Bhutanese territory. Beijing hopes Bhutan will relinquish its claim to the disputed area, thereby obviating the need for Indian troops, which would then be violating Chinese territory.

According to Indian government sources, China and India informally agreed to simultaneously reduce troop deployments in phases, aiming for a complete withdrawal between September and October, or at least by year-end.

Both Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping need to save face, hence the simultaneous draw down. But tensions remain, with Chinese and Indian soldiers throwing stones at each other in Kashmir.

According to an Indian government source, there are about 320 Indian and 500 Chinese troops in the area, with the numbers declining. But behind them stand 12,000 Indian soldiers and a 16,000-strong Chinese contingent, raising concerns that if shooting starts, it could quickly grow into a major conflict.
 

FORBIN

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If it’s from the guy who has been giving us precise build schedules and order counts for new ships for years now...then yes?
Maybe :cool:
Treat the picture as a rumor. All these rumors are sometimes reflection of reality, sometimes fantasy. So we can't know for sure until the ship actually launches.
Ok but i can't know he inform you in a Chinese forum ;)
 
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