We also don’t know the distance parameters of detection, and the way the topography near land features might factor into the acoustic environment the submarine was operating under. Where a submarine chooses to operate plays a large role in how easy it is to detect, and this episode didn’t exactly occur in open ocean.
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I don't even think the 093 was "operating" so much as the PLAN high command told them a 054A was going anyway so they might as well tag along as training.
Why it is not in a good light? I pass your window, you saw me, so it looks bad for me? How scary your staring is!
What protocol? As you just said, the sub was outside of 12 miles range to the disputed islands. What kind of protocol dictate whether a naval vessel should or should not conceal itself, raising or not raising its ensign in this water? A protocol is an agreement between two parties, is there such agreement between China and Japan? I don't think so.
The more interesting question is where was the sub before 10th. Somewhere not looking good for Japan?Not within 12 nautical miles but into contiguous zone (24 miles zone) around Taisho Island. They detected a submarine going underwater NW in the contiguous zone around Miyako Island using a P-3 and JS Onami earlier. It seems like Onami was tracking it all the time after that (enough to draw a precise course on the map). The other vessel was Type 054.
Yes, it's not the first time it happened. It was similar to the event from 2016.
New guided-missile frigate Rizhao joins PLA Navy
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Zhang Tao
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2018-01-12
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The photo taken on January 12, 2018 shows a ceremony marking the commission of the guided-missile frigate Rizhao (Hull 598) in the PLA Navy's North China Sea Fleet at a naval port in Dalian, northeast China's Liaoning province. (eng.chinamil.com.cn/Photo by Zhang Hailong)
DALIAN, Jan. 12 (ChinaMil) -- The new guided-missile frigate Rizhao (Hull 598) joined a destroyer flotilla attached to the North China Sea Fleet of the PLA Navy on Jan. 12, with the commissioning and naming ceremony held at a naval port in Dalian, north China's Liaoning province on Friday.
The ceremony began at 10:00 a.m. , Wang Jianwu, commander of a destroyer flotilla attached to the North China Sea Fleet, announced the commissioning and naming order, and presented the ensigns of the PLA and the PLA Navy and the naming certificate to the new frigate.
Launched in April 2017,the 140-meter-long and 16-meter-wide frigate Rizhao, with a full displacement of over 4,000 tons, is developed and built by the Huangpu Wenchong Shipbuilding Company under China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC).
As a new member of the Type 054A frigates family, the Rizhao is equipped with advanced weapon systems and capable of attacking surface ships and submarines independently or in coordination with other naval forces.
The frigate is named after the city of Rizhao in Shandong Province.
The picture shows the guided-missile frigate Rizhao (Hull 598) berths at a naval port in Dalian, north China’s Liaoning province, on January 12, 2018.(eng.chinamil.com.cn/Photo by Zhang Hailong)
The picture shows the guided-missile frigate Rizhao (Hull 598) berths at a naval port in Dalian, north China’s Liaoning province, on January 12, 2018.(eng.chinamil.com.cn/Photo by Zhang Hailong)
The picture shows the guided-missile frigate Rizhao (Hull 598) berths at a naval port in Dalian, north China’s Liaoning province, on January 12, 2018.(eng.chinamil.com.cn/Photo by Zhang Hailong)
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Editor
Zhang Tao
Time
2018-01-12
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DALIAN, Jan. 12 (ChinaMil) -- The new guided-missile frigate Rizhao (Hull 598) joined a destroyer flotilla attached to the North China Sea Fleet of the PLA Navy on Jan. 12, with the commissioning and naming ceremony held at a naval port in Dalian, north China's Liaoning province on Friday.
The ceremony began at 10:00 a.m. , Wang Jianwu, commander of a destroyer flotilla attached to the North China Sea Fleet, announced the commissioning and naming order, and presented the ensigns of the PLA and the PLA Navy and the naming certificate to the new frigate.
Launched in April 2017,the 140-meter-long and 16-meter-wide frigate Rizhao, with a full displacement of over 4,000 tons, is developed and built by the Huangpu Wenchong Shipbuilding Company under China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC).
As a new member of the Type 054A frigates family, the Rizhao is equipped with advanced weapon systems and capable of attacking surface ships and submarines independently or in coordination with other naval forces.
The frigate is named after the city of Rizhao in Shandong Province.
I'm eagerly waiting to see reports about PLAN
1) detecting underwater cruising nuclear powered submarine
2) tracking it down to the pinpoint
3) taking commemorative photos with it surfaced and showing ensign surfaced (as I can imagine many of those aboard JS Onami did taking a walk with one of the "state of art Chinese submarine")
Those are facts...
I think that's Jeff's 'pond' of interest so I think that he's the only capable person on this forum to speak about it.
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Some say otherwise.
I think there is no need to focus on A or B, after all the A and Bs are only used by outsiders like us, PLAN could regard them as the same. What is meaningful is that this one has a hump different from others.
I actually feel sorry for them after all that and JMSDF taking pictures and making it public right off might be even conisdered as 'bad behavior' on the Japanese side to torment them even more... I'm 100% sure that was the submarines' CO last journey.