PLA Missile Thread (Pictures)
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THATS TWO ALREADY AND WTH IS THIS???
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showthread.php?p=16759#post16759
AND IF YOU HADN'T PUT ALL THOSE ":mad" IN FRONT OF YOUR POST THEN IT WOULD START ADDING UP... NEXT POINTLESS ONELINER YOU MAKE IM DELETING WITHOUT WARNING.
THATS TWO ALREADY AND WTH IS THIS???
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showthread.php?p=16759#post16759
AND IF YOU HADN'T PUT ALL THOSE ":mad" IN FRONT OF YOUR POST THEN IT WOULD START ADDING UP... NEXT POINTLESS ONELINER YOU MAKE IM DELETING WITHOUT WARNING.
MIGleader
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Re: PLA Missile Thread
they were made out of philipine mahogany fyi. the supplies were low after the japs captured the philipines, but the u.s had just recieved three boat loads.
your one that seems to know the old guys.
redone said:ok ONEDREAM no more oneliners I was just trying to point out that the higgins boat aka lcu is made of steel not wood and the last time chinese used wooden boats is in the attacking KMT hold island in the late forties as miggy said it was hard to make much more out of that
they were made out of philipine mahogany fyi. the supplies were low after the japs captured the philipines, but the u.s had just recieved three boat loads.
your one that seems to know the old guys.
darth sidious
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Re: PLA Pic Thread
Swimmer the pic of the missile you posted isent that the norico export missile if i remenber the pla never purchese such a missile that thing was design to replace the scuds in Iranian service right now no one is useing it
Swimmer the pic of the missile you posted isent that the norico export missile if i remenber the pla never purchese such a missile that thing was design to replace the scuds in Iranian service right now no one is useing it
darth sidious
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Re: PLA Missile Thread
the twin lunchered one on the truck I belive it is called the B-xxx forgeet the exect number that thing waas developed in the early 90s for export to Iran hence is short range. the IRanian call it the Mshak-160 mounted on a different luncher
the twin lunchered one on the truck I belive it is called the B-xxx forgeet the exect number that thing waas developed in the early 90s for export to Iran hence is short range. the IRanian call it the Mshak-160 mounted on a different luncher
MIGleader
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Re: PLA Pic Thread
iran used scuds?
interesting gollevainen, i though questions didnt count as one liners...
First of all, the red colour is preserved to moderation work only! Seccondly oneliner is a oneliner no matter what, they are allowed in only certain case....this wasen't one of those...
so can u enlighten me how i should ask a question? i dont want to be banned just for being curious...
....go to the military FAQ thread...
darth sidious said:
iran used scuds?
interesting gollevainen, i though questions didnt count as one liners...
First of all, the red colour is preserved to moderation work only! Seccondly oneliner is a oneliner no matter what, they are allowed in only certain case....this wasen't one of those...
so can u enlighten me how i should ask a question? i dont want to be banned just for being curious...
....go to the military FAQ thread...
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darth sidious
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Iran hve scuds and lots of it the first were purchesed in the "war of the cities " aginst Iraq later on when the Russian sided with Iraq, Iran bought more from North Korea in Iran its call the shahab-1/2
Iran hve scuds and lots of it the first were purchesed in the "war of the cities " aginst Iraq later on when the Russian sided with Iraq, Iran bought more from North Korea in Iran its call the shahab-1/2
Re: PLA Missile Thread
this is an interesting article here
香港军事刊物《亚太周刊》报道。美国华盛顿时报曾经报道，大陆解放军早些时候成功试射一枚代号 “鸿鸟â€的空对地型巡航导弹，并称中国发展巡航导弹的过程与外国略有不同，先从陆射跨越到水上和潜射，主要是中国早具备从水下发射弹道导弹能力，但因空中运载平台太弱，以致于最后才轮到研制空射型巡航导弹。美媒称，中国上月试射成功的“鸿鸟â€空对地型航导弹是集俄国ｋ－５５、美国“战斧â€和以色列导弹之大成，其中“战斧â€的技术是中国在美军中东几次战役攻击未爆中秘密取得。但中国的空射型巡航导弹，其精髓不会脱离俄制ｋ－５５ａ／ｂ型导弹，而这种导弹采地形匹配制导技术发射，射程达三千公里，圆概率误差约1.5米，和美国的“战斧â€相差无几。
Saying that last month, China successfully tested new HN LACM. It's success is based on K-55, tomahawk and Israeli cruise missiles?
China used several tomahawk shells from past American launches in the Middle East conflicts. However, it's mainly based on K-55 a/b.
a little info on that system
Apparently, the range of new HN is 3000 KM with 1.5 meter of error distance? Comparable to tomahawk.
外界早从七、八年前起猜测中国研制巡航导弹的进度，并多以权威性高的简氏期刊为依据，推论中国从一九七七年著手进行巡航导弹的研制工作。在技术条件有限的制约下，中国发展巡航导弹先以射程六百公里的短程“鸿鸟一号â€为主，射程达一千五百公里的“鸿鸟二号â€巡航导弹已于一九九六年服役；“鸿鸟三号â€射程更扩及二千五百公里，但这些发射技术多以陆基型为主，准备向水上、潜射乃至于空射型过渡。
China started cruise missile development in 1977. HN-1 had range of 600 KM. HN-2 had a range of 1500 KM and entered service in 1996. HN-3 has range of 2500 KM. These are mainly land based cruise missiles. China is trying to prepare for shipborne version, submarine launched version and air launched version.
中国的“ｘâ€导弹计划已实施二十二年，就是陆攻巡航导弹。中国很早就对巡航导弹的应用价值进行论证并得出惊人的作战结果。因而加快了此类导弹的研制与步署。
１９８２年成立了低空掠面导弹工程组。就是现在俗称的巡航导弹。并将此划归于战术核投掷载具。当时考虑中子弹将研究成功，而低空掠面导弹的确是一种良好的载具。可在敌装甲群及兵力集结部于核战术重创。没想到海湾战争这类导弹的高效运作给课题组于振奋。加快了这类导弹的研究与布署。
以下是国外媒体对中国红鸟巡航导弹研制情况的报道：
中国进行第一次低空掠面导弹试验是在１９８８年，此导弹装备一涡扇发动机，使用惯性制导和电视制导。巡航高度２００－３００米。速度０.７马赫。落点于甘肃境内未击中目标，偏差点近一公里。航程５００公里。长８.４米。有展翼宽２.４米，并有导弹舵翼控制射向。
The first low flying missile test is 1988 and it was equipped with a turbofan engine. It's cruise altitude was 200 to 300 meter, speed mach0.7. didn't hit the target, had 500 km range, length 8.4 m, width 2.4 m.
ｎ１即红鸟一装备型。分为ａ型和ｂ型，ｂ型为空射型。装备时间在海湾战争以后。长6米，射程６５０公里。可装核战斗部。采用惯性制导+ｇｐｓ修正+电子地图（１９９４型）+电视修正或微光电视制导（１９９４夜间型）。重１.２吨。－６ｄ可配两枚战术巡航，速度０.７５马赫。ｎ２即红鸟二增程型。射程增至１８００公里。长８米。制导同上精度３米，速度０.９马赫。重１.４吨。有ｎ２ａ和ｎ２ｂ陆空型。另有ｎ２潜射型航程缩短为１４００公里。１９９５年装备军队。ｎ３即红鸟三装备型，射程３０００公里。速度０.９马赫。重１.４吨。制导精度2m +/-30%，有陆空潜三种型号。1998年部队验证并少量装备。最新的一种ｎ２０００型尾段超音速隐形巡航导弹正在研制。射程增到四千公里。
ｎ１巡航高度为２０－６０００米。红鸟１为１５－７０００米。ｎ２巡航高度为２０－６０００米。ｎ３巡航高度为１０－８０００米。作战辅助系统：初级装置红岩军卡底盘的倾斜闭仓发射方仓已被换装。在９５年开始采用仿俄弹射垂直发射系统。可同时进行四枚不同导弹的饱合攻击发射。此垂直系统将在宋级改进艇上实验。最终将移植到最新核攻击潜艇上。
HN-1's cruise alttiude 15 to 7000 meter, 20 to 6000 for hn-2 and 10 to 8000 for hn-3.
下一步将是空潜的联网。精度抗干扰的全数字导弹系统：1 三星网北斗导航系统的整建。2 地球高清晰全数字地图。3 多种接口ａｐｉ模块。在特殊情况下可与数字无人侦察机配合实现精度攻击。即满足全球攻击能力的补充。可望在ｎ２０００上见到成效。
HN-2000's goal is to attack anywhere on earth.
this is an interesting article here
香港军事刊物《亚太周刊》报道。美国华盛顿时报曾经报道，大陆解放军早些时候成功试射一枚代号 “鸿鸟â€的空对地型巡航导弹，并称中国发展巡航导弹的过程与外国略有不同，先从陆射跨越到水上和潜射，主要是中国早具备从水下发射弹道导弹能力，但因空中运载平台太弱，以致于最后才轮到研制空射型巡航导弹。美媒称，中国上月试射成功的“鸿鸟â€空对地型航导弹是集俄国ｋ－５５、美国“战斧â€和以色列导弹之大成，其中“战斧â€的技术是中国在美军中东几次战役攻击未爆中秘密取得。但中国的空射型巡航导弹，其精髓不会脱离俄制ｋ－５５ａ／ｂ型导弹，而这种导弹采地形匹配制导技术发射，射程达三千公里，圆概率误差约1.5米，和美国的“战斧â€相差无几。
Saying that last month, China successfully tested new HN LACM. It's success is based on K-55, tomahawk and Israeli cruise missiles?
China used several tomahawk shells from past American launches in the Middle East conflicts. However, it's mainly based on K-55 a/b.
a little info on that system
Apparently, the range of new HN is 3000 KM with 1.5 meter of error distance? Comparable to tomahawk.
外界早从七、八年前起猜测中国研制巡航导弹的进度，并多以权威性高的简氏期刊为依据，推论中国从一九七七年著手进行巡航导弹的研制工作。在技术条件有限的制约下，中国发展巡航导弹先以射程六百公里的短程“鸿鸟一号â€为主，射程达一千五百公里的“鸿鸟二号â€巡航导弹已于一九九六年服役；“鸿鸟三号â€射程更扩及二千五百公里，但这些发射技术多以陆基型为主，准备向水上、潜射乃至于空射型过渡。
China started cruise missile development in 1977. HN-1 had range of 600 KM. HN-2 had a range of 1500 KM and entered service in 1996. HN-3 has range of 2500 KM. These are mainly land based cruise missiles. China is trying to prepare for shipborne version, submarine launched version and air launched version.
中国的“ｘâ€导弹计划已实施二十二年，就是陆攻巡航导弹。中国很早就对巡航导弹的应用价值进行论证并得出惊人的作战结果。因而加快了此类导弹的研制与步署。
１９８２年成立了低空掠面导弹工程组。就是现在俗称的巡航导弹。并将此划归于战术核投掷载具。当时考虑中子弹将研究成功，而低空掠面导弹的确是一种良好的载具。可在敌装甲群及兵力集结部于核战术重创。没想到海湾战争这类导弹的高效运作给课题组于振奋。加快了这类导弹的研究与布署。
以下是国外媒体对中国红鸟巡航导弹研制情况的报道：
中国进行第一次低空掠面导弹试验是在１９８８年，此导弹装备一涡扇发动机，使用惯性制导和电视制导。巡航高度２００－３００米。速度０.７马赫。落点于甘肃境内未击中目标，偏差点近一公里。航程５００公里。长８.４米。有展翼宽２.４米，并有导弹舵翼控制射向。
The first low flying missile test is 1988 and it was equipped with a turbofan engine. It's cruise altitude was 200 to 300 meter, speed mach0.7. didn't hit the target, had 500 km range, length 8.4 m, width 2.4 m.
ｎ１即红鸟一装备型。分为ａ型和ｂ型，ｂ型为空射型。装备时间在海湾战争以后。长6米，射程６５０公里。可装核战斗部。采用惯性制导+ｇｐｓ修正+电子地图（１９９４型）+电视修正或微光电视制导（１９９４夜间型）。重１.２吨。－６ｄ可配两枚战术巡航，速度０.７５马赫。ｎ２即红鸟二增程型。射程增至１８００公里。长８米。制导同上精度３米，速度０.９马赫。重１.４吨。有ｎ２ａ和ｎ２ｂ陆空型。另有ｎ２潜射型航程缩短为１４００公里。１９９５年装备军队。ｎ３即红鸟三装备型，射程３０００公里。速度０.９马赫。重１.４吨。制导精度2m +/-30%，有陆空潜三种型号。1998年部队验证并少量装备。最新的一种ｎ２０００型尾段超音速隐形巡航导弹正在研制。射程增到四千公里。
ｎ１巡航高度为２０－６０００米。红鸟１为１５－７０００米。ｎ２巡航高度为２０－６０００米。ｎ３巡航高度为１０－８０００米。作战辅助系统：初级装置红岩军卡底盘的倾斜闭仓发射方仓已被换装。在９５年开始采用仿俄弹射垂直发射系统。可同时进行四枚不同导弹的饱合攻击发射。此垂直系统将在宋级改进艇上实验。最终将移植到最新核攻击潜艇上。
HN-1's cruise alttiude 15 to 7000 meter, 20 to 6000 for hn-2 and 10 to 8000 for hn-3.
下一步将是空潜的联网。精度抗干扰的全数字导弹系统：1 三星网北斗导航系统的整建。2 地球高清晰全数字地图。3 多种接口ａｐｉ模块。在特殊情况下可与数字无人侦察机配合实现精度攻击。即满足全球攻击能力的补充。可望在ｎ２０００上见到成效。
HN-2000's goal is to attack anywhere on earth.
Re: PLA Missile Thread
Quick note on Ukrainian cruise missile exports to Iran and China:
On 18 March 2005 "Financial Times" newspaper of Britain reported that Ukrainian Prosecutor-General Svyatoslav Piskun had stated that Ukraine exported 12 cruise missiles to Iran and six to China in 2001. Piskun told the paper that none of the 18 X-55 cruise missiles (also known as Kh-55 or AS-15) was exported with the nuclear warheads they were designed to carry.
AS-15 specs:
Quick note on Ukrainian cruise missile exports to Iran and China:
On 18 March 2005 "Financial Times" newspaper of Britain reported that Ukrainian Prosecutor-General Svyatoslav Piskun had stated that Ukraine exported 12 cruise missiles to Iran and six to China in 2001. Piskun told the paper that none of the 18 X-55 cruise missiles (also known as Kh-55 or AS-15) was exported with the nuclear warheads they were designed to carry.
AS-15 specs:
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