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Tracked and tracked articulated vehicles seen at a recent exercise.

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KampfAlwin

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An academic paper describing the design of a bustle auto-loader, which holds 16 rounds.

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Those rounds depicted looks to be the 125mm, as evidenced by the 2 piece design. Interesting... I guess it makes sense not to develop single piece 125mm ammunition when the PLA still have thousands of tanks with carousel autoloaders in service.

I really love the trickling of new info before Zhuhai.
 

AZaz09dude

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The new combat system with the digital NVGs, new helmet, radio and scoped rifles seem to have been only given to SOF or tibet frontline troops. Is it the case that they decided against issuing the new combat equipment system to regular army troops? Or could they be waiting for a new, better system for the entire army?

Right now what I'm seeing from these videos is that SOF is fairly well equipped, but regular army is still at:
>iron sight rifle (no attachments)
>basic helmet, no mounting for NVGs, rails, or for earpro
>basic vest for body armor
>new camo pattern completely adopted

It's been 5 years since the 2019 parade showcasing the new systems, I'm inclined to believe they have just chosen not to issue the equipment to regular army, or is there another reason for the lack of progress in combat equipment?
The original infantry modernization program has been discontinued lol. Fate of its components as follows
-Majority of small arms adopted (along with optics, though some units with backwards mindset still refuse to draw perceived expensive/fragile quipment for training)
-Starry sky pattern uniforms adopted with modifications and slight downgrade
-SY series vest adopted with slight downgrade
-Helmet discontinued, new standard issue is the original interim shanghai lianbo contract (some pictures show modification with 1224 rail mounted on that helmet)
-Digital soldier components (eyepiece, comms, ATAK thing etc) dropped, eyepiece still retained at trial units for basic NOD capability
 

polati

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The original infantry modernization program has been discontinued lol. Fate of its components as follows
-Majority of small arms adopted (along with optics, though some units with backwards mindset still refuse to draw perceived expensive/fragile quipment for training)
-Starry sky pattern uniforms adopted with modifications and slight downgrade
-SY series vest adopted with slight downgrade
-Helmet discontinued, new standard issue is the original interim shanghai lianbo contract (some pictures show modification with 1224 rail mounted on that helmet)
-Digital soldier components (eyepiece, comms, ATAK thing etc) dropped, eyepiece still retained at trial units for basic NOD capability
Was the system not up to par? Or was the budget reduced? Regular army has seen (according to most videos online) barely any infantry equipment improvement aside from a new vest and improved camo. I wonder what's preventing them from making a relatively small investment (compared to procuring J-20s) and vastly improving equipment quality throughout the army
 

polati

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Was the system not up to par? Or was the budget reduced? Regular army has seen (according to most videos online) barely any infantry equipment improvement aside from a new vest and improved camo. I wonder what's preventing them from making a relatively small investment (compared to procuring J-20s) and vastly improving equipment quality throughout the army
It just seems like infantry equipment has in fact gone backwards since 2019 for the regular army. However for SOF it has been steadily improving, though still lacking in some aspects.
 

AZaz09dude

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As of 2019, the vast majority of the PLA was still using Type-06 LBE + QGF03 helmet. They might appear to have regressed if you only focused on units trialing Project 1224, but the baseline level of kit for the PLA has already significantly improved. Still not keeping pace by modern standards, but with the sheer number of troops they need to outfit, limited budget/other priorities, and no active large scale ground combat operations it's not seen as an urgent issue.

For SOF... the truth is that outside of being higher priority for trial/new issued gear and generally receiving more complete sets, in the existing system there's no difference officially between what is standard issue for a mech unit cannon fodder grunt or an operator from an SMU. Individual/unit level gear purchases from private companies or experimental/custom gear from official channels tries to remedy the problem, but as long as they don't see an urgent need, there's probably only a handful of subunits that meet modern SOF standards of equipment (and training as well)
 
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