PLA Coast Defense Forces

Agreed mixing up C-802 and HY-2 families of missiles.

Here's an illustration I made of an Iranian C-802 shore battery, it's virtually the same as the Chinese version except maybe the make of truck it's mounted on. 3 missiles.

On one hand you say a fixed gun "can be survivable", but destroying mobile launchers shouldn't be "exceedingly difficult. I can admire your advocacy, but your logic just doesn't fly. The fact is, these missiles have never been pre-empted, even Hezbollah got to fire off theirs.

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Mobil launchers are exposed/unprotected and can be seen via infrared. Major-caliber coast defense guns are rarely unprotected, and are generally emplaced within armored turrets (rarely) or casemates, or within caves, which gives them heavy protection and can allow heat signatures of personnel and such to be hidden from view. Casemates for such guns are designed to resist heavy armor-piercing bombs and gun projectiles, and they can generally do so well. The fact that one or two shots won't necessarily destroy the piece means that it can be effective in causing damage before being destroyed.

It also doesn't seem to appear that the C-802 has been used much in combat at all. Against an enemy on the alert and at a greater distance, and with better AAW systems, getting a hit fom a surprise launch would be more difficult. The Hy-1 and HY-2 missiles have already been shown to be able to be defended against, even in a surprise attack. The use of UAVss with infrared cameras, and possily satellite assets, can be used to spot additional launchers.

You can try IR but you'll also need to take out every chicken hauling Dong Feng truck. The Serbs barely got scratched during Operation Allied Force.

You mention one HY-2 was diverted by chaff, so Aegis missed it? That's a pretty impressive feat for such big, slow, old missile.

Nice pic planeman. Did you make the launcher in 3D?

No, MS Paint doesn't do 3D yet.

I'm not sure I buy that mobile launchers are somehow less survivable than static guns. The armoured casemates is no match for FAE or a 1,000lb bomb 20m away.

You mention one HY-2 was diverted by chaff, so Aegis missed it? That's a pretty impressive feat for such big, slow, old missile.

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There were no AEGIS vessels in the vicinity. The Missouri's only escort hat day was the HMS Gloucester, a British Type 42 DDG, which shot down the other missiles launched with two Sea Dart SAMs.

You can try IR but you'll also need to take out every chicken hauling Dong Feng truck. The Serbs barely got scratched during Operation Allied Force.

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It's a total war situation, so I doubt it would be much of an issue.

I'm not sure I buy that mobile launchers are somehow less survivable than static guns. The armoured casemates is no match for FAE or a 1,000lb bomb 20m away.

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The only armor consists of the frontal plates, if the casemate has one. They are generally protected by anywhere from 10 to over 30 feet of steel reinforced concrete overhead, with thick walls in the various rooms to limit damage. Above the ceiling is a much thicker layer of earth, and near the top, burried about 3 feet below the top, there is a concrete burster course, which is designed to prematurely set the delay fuse on an armor piercing bomb or projectile, causing it to detonate before it hits the concrete, or before it can penetrate it. They are generally well-protected and have performed well in combat. A mobile missile launcher, once targeted, has absolutely no protection.

You just dropped 30,000 PGM on chicken trucks. Sorry you just lost total war.