PLA Anti-Air Missile (SAM) systems

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Stealthflanker said:
Trying to make a "Family tree" for HQ-9 family, what do you guys think ? Am i missing a variant ?

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The problem with a family tree is that we don't actually know the relationship between the major variants (land, land/export, naval).

For example, we know HQ-9B, HQ-9BE, and HHQ-9B all exist, but is the relationship one where they are all successive variants of their respective land, land/export, naval versions in a vertical fashion, or are those three variants all related to each other "laterally"?


Given such major gaps in knowledge exist, it's probably better to actively avoid making images or diagrams, because images for incomplete or inaccurate information can be disseminated too easily.
 
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ACuriousPLAFan said:
Shouldn't the sea-based systems have -B and -C variants as well?
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There are C, which yes recently displayed, but i havent included it yet. B tho, kinda bit mysterious here. Even the land based one there arent really much in terms of information. The only visible thing is the TEL, Radar and supporting vehicle and if lucky sometime export brochure.

Blitzo said:
Given such major gaps in knowledge exist, it's probably better to actively avoid making images or diagrams, because images for incomplete or inaccurate information can be disseminated too easily.
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Understandable but, i think if one actually want a discussion, such family tree or "lineup" could be a start. Hopefully more knowlegdable folks will join.
 
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Some anti-air and anti-missile systems of China. The list is not-exhaustive and may not be fully accurate.

Land-based Fixed Strategic Midcourse Phase ABM: DN-3
Land-based Mobile Strategic Midcourse Phase ABM: HQ-29, SN-X(?)
Land-based Mobile Theater Terminal Phase ABM: HQ-19
Land-based Mobile Tactical Terminal Phase ABM: HQ-9C, HQ-20
Land-based Mobile SAM with Tactical Terminal Phase ABM: HQ-9B, HQ-22
Land-based Mobile Long-range SAM: HQ-9A
Land-based Mobile Mid-range SAM: HQ-16A/B/C, HQ-11
Land-based Mobile Short-range SAM: HQ-17

Sea-based Strategic Midcourse Phase ABM: HQ-2X(?)
Sea-based Theater Terminal Phase ABM: HHQ-19
Sea-based Tactical Terminal Phase ABM: HHQ-9C
Sea-based SAM with Tactical Terminal Phase ABM: HHQ-9B
Sea-based Long-range SAM: HHQ-9A
Sea-based Mid-range SAM: HHQ-16A/B/C
Sea-based Short-range SAM: HHQ-10
 
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ACuriousPLAFan said:
Some anti-air and anti-missile systems of China. The list is not-exhaustive and may not be fully accurate.

Land-based Fixed Strategic Midcourse Phase ABM: DN-3
Land-based Mobile Strategic Midcourse Phase ABM: HQ-29, SN-X(?)
Land-based Mobile Theater Terminal Phase ABM: HQ-19
Land-based Mobile Tactical Terminal Phase ABM: HQ-9C, HQ-20
Land-based Mobile SAM with Tactical Terminal Phase ABM: HQ-9B, HQ-22
Land-based Mobile Long-range SAM: HQ-9A
Land-based Mobile Mid-range SAM: HQ-16A/B/C, HQ-11
Land-based Mobile Short-range SAM: HQ-17

Sea-based Strategic Midcourse Phase ABM: HQ-2X(?)
Sea-based Theater Terminal Phase ABM: HHQ-19
Sea-based Tactical Terminal Phase ABM: HHQ-9C
Sea-based SAM with Tactical Terminal Phase ABM: HHQ-9B
Sea-based Long-range SAM: HHQ-9A
Sea-based Mid-range SAM: HHQ-16A/B/C
Sea-based Short-range SAM: HHQ-10
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Is the HQ/HHQ-16F not in PLA service?
 
The Observer

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bsdnf said:
No evidence that the PLA has adopted it. HQ-16F is so upgraded that it is very close to the HQ-9. I doubt the PLA will choose it.
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It might go to the frigate fleet though, considering they're using a different VLS than the 052D & 055s. Unless PLAN decided to repack the HHQ-9 for hot launch, I think HHQ-16F might eventually supplement/replace earlier HHQ-16 variants.
 
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