So the export version FK-3 has a 100km range, while the PLA version has a 170km range?
PLA Anti-Air Missile (SAM) systems
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Not sure about fk3 but 170km for pla is apparently what some websites claim. Can anyone confirm?
LY-60 is dead product. I think that's the export version of HQ-61, which was installed on the Jiangwei 053H1 to H2, and by the H3, it was replaced by HQ-7.
You also forgot to add HQ-17 on the list for short range. HQ-17 appears to be on the gradual replacement of HQ-7.
DK-10A aka Skydragon 50 is the one supposed to be quad packed. But for some reason it is not accepted by the PLAN. Skydragon 50 remains to be an export product only where it has already has some installed customers.
There is talk about the 5-5-5 quad packed missile, which stands for Mach 5, 50 kilometers, not sure what the other 5 is, but it could be 5km height.
What is this 5-5-5 quad pack SAM? Is it for Type 055 VLS? or land based SAM?
Mach 5 is incredible SAM speeds. I think most of the world's fastest are basically around mach 4 top speed? 50km puts it around mid block HQ-16 range levels. Is this 5-5-5 SAM a HQ-16 based missile or DK-10/PL-12 staged boost missile?
Seems like for all ranges PLA is going to have modern versions soon (HQ-9C for long range, 555 missile for medium range, HQ-17 or FM2000 for short range).
But short range still seems like a mess with a a mix of really old missiles like HQ-7, LY-60 and gun systems like PGZ-95 gun+manpad, PGZ-09 gun, LD-2000 and then there's the HQ-10 that is naval only and looks unsuitable for vehicles.
I am really looking forward to the 555 missile. The HQ-16 seems really outdated and bulky compared to modern versions like EESM.
Some questions about the HQ-17 short range SAM:
1. Some websites claim that the HQ-17A wheeled version carries 16 missiles while the HQ-17 tracked version only carries 8. Is that true? I find it hard to believe given their small size difference
2. For both the wheeled HQ-17A and tracked HQ-17, do the missiles extend beyond the top cab with the radars?
I was under the impression that the top cab can spin around to direct its front tracking radar, but seeing the length of the missile in this photo, it seems impossible not to extend into the vehicle itself
1. Some websites claim that the HQ-17A wheeled version carries 16 missiles while the HQ-17 tracked version only carries 8. Is that true? I find it hard to believe given their small size difference
2. For both the wheeled HQ-17A and tracked HQ-17, do the missiles extend beyond the top cab with the radars?
I was under the impression that the top cab can spin around to direct its front tracking radar, but seeing the length of the missile in this photo, it seems impossible not to extend into the vehicle itself
Some questions about the HQ-17 short range SAM:
1. Some websites claim that the HQ-17A wheeled version carries 16 missiles while the HQ-17 tracked version only carries 8. Is that true? I find it hard to believe given their small size difference
2. For both the wheeled HQ-17A and tracked HQ-17, do the missiles extend beyond the top cab with the radars?
I was under the impression that the top cab can spin around to direct its front tracking radar, but seeing the length of the missile in this photo, it seems impossible not to extend into the vehicle itself
Yes, the missile does extend into the vehicle itself. Pay attention to the missile containers in loading. The number of missiles is restricted by the width of the turret basket due to the need of fitting the rear part of the missile into the vehicle.
As for the HQ-17A having 16 missiles instead of 8, I did read some news/ rumors (closer to rumors I say) about Russian Tor getting new and more compact missiles that increases its missile capacity from 8 to 16. Since HQ-17 and its development is a branch of Russian Tor, maybe that's where the claim comes from?
Thanks for that clarification.
There is a RT documentary where they interview the makers of Tor and they say it has 16 missiles.
But HQ-17 development is not related to Tor since it is reverse engineered, not cooperated. And the picture above of the wheeled variant looks like only 8 missiles. Too bad the picture quality is just a bit too low to confirm
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