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Jingle Bells

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Bltizo said:
So, by extension you are saying that you believe "the PLA watching community at large should be expected to know that the PLA does not reveal all of its capabilities as part of a basic set of foundational knowledge" is an unreasonable position to take.

Fine.
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No, it's not unreasonable. It's perfectly reasonable.
 
Blitzo

Blitzo

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Maikeru said:
And GPS/Beidou guided bombs? That's basically the only option for the glide bombs I think.
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There are glide bombs with seekers for laser guidance or even imaging infrared, for the terminal phase.

The accuracy of satellite guided bombs is generally less good than laser guidance, but satellite guided bombs are fire/forget and not dependent on weather.
The exact relative accuracy of satellite guided bombs is also dependent on the level of accuracy of the satellites you have for providing said guidance. If you have accuracy of military grade GPS or Beidou, that will be much more accurate than only relying on civilian equivalents.
 
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AndrewS

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Maikeru said:
And GPS/Beidou guided bombs? That's basically the only option for the glide bombs I think.
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JDAM GPS/INS/Laser CEPs below.
Glide Bomb specs should be similar, except the [INS only] CEP will be higher depending on how far away the glide bomb was released.


AndrewS said:
The US pays $4K for a 250kg class dumb bomb. Then I see an Air Force JDAM kit starting at $21K. That comes to $25K in total.

So given the large increase in cost for a JDAM kit, you might as well go with a larger 500kg bomb to guarantee the target is hit. So the total cost goes from $25K to around $29K.

The JDAM specs are around [4m for Laser guidance] or [13m for GPS+INS] or [30m for INS only]

If you assume that GPS will be jammed or laser targeting is not available (due to clouds), then it would make sense to go with a bigger bomb to compensate.

Of course, the drawback is that less bombs are carried per aircraft sortie.

This applies to gravity bombs without glide wing kits.

But if we're talking about glide bombs, the weight of the bomb does impact the standoff glide range.
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asif iqbal

asif iqbal

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Jingle Bells said:
What you are saying certainly make sense.

However, like I said before, Shilao is ONLY credible because he is not a fully independent actor/person. The price he has to pay for knowing more about the real PLA, is that he is also subject to security restrictions and is held accountable for what he says. This is also why someone as logical and attentive to detail as you would "believe" what he says. Because what he says could be considered a credible source with a level of confidence deemed sufficient by you. However, from the POV of the PLA and Chinese authorities, Shilao's words are also credible and thus have the risk of leaking important technical details of the PLA's abilities. Therefore, just like @asif iqbal won't get his pictures, you won't get Shilao's words.

Your original words: "But telling us that the PLA has some more capable and sophisticated A2G capabilities that we haven't seen, is not particularly useful." should be enough to explain my point. The PLA will NOT give the general public information that some like you can determine to be "useful", because if you can determine it to be "useful", than a professional spy would at least dig even more sensitive information from those.
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i don’t know how i became part of this conversation but just to clear it up I did eventually get my photos of the Type 726 LCAC with full load in a video going in and out of the well deck
 
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