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An update on last year's Syrian sarin story:
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UN probe chief doubts Syrian sarin claims
By Gareth Porter

WASHINGTON - The head of the United Nations team that investigated the August 21, 2013, sarin attack in the Damascus suburbs, Ake Sellstrom, is doubtful about the number of victims of the attack reported immediately after the event. Sellstrom has suggested that many people who claimed to have been seriously affected by sarin merely imagined that they had suffered significant exposure to the chemical.

Underlying Sellstrom's doubts are data on symptoms from a sample of people who said they were severely affected by the sarin attack. The data, published in the September report, appear to belie the claims of sarin intoxication by those in the sample, according to experts who have analyzed them.

Sellstrom expressed his doubts in an interview with Gwyn Winfield, the editor of the CBRNe World Magazine, that was published in the February issue.

"If you take the figures from Tokyo [the 1995 sarin attack on the city's subway], you can compare how many died versus those that were intoxicated," said Sellstrom. But in the case of Syrian attack, he said, "[W]hile we could conclude that it was big, we couldn't do the same for how many died or were affected."

He expressed doubt that many of the alleged survivors of the attack had been exposed to sarin. "You can get many symptoms from other items in a war," Sellstrom said, "[P]hosphorous smoke, tear gas, many of those devices on the battlefield will affect the lungs, eyes and give you respiratory problems."

Then Sellstrom added, "Also in any theater of war, people will claim they are intoxicated. We saw it in Palestine, Afghanistan and everywhere else."

Now a project manager at the European CBRNE Centre in Umea, Sellstrom did not respond to e-mail requests from IPS for comment on this article by deadline.

However, his remarks to CBRNe were evidently influenced strongly by the team's experience in gathering data on several dozen alleged victims who claimed to have been among the most heavily exposed to sarin on August 21.

Sellstrom explained to Winfield that the investigating team had sought the help of the opposition in the area where the attack took place to identify as many as 80 survivors of the sarin attack.

"We thought that if they can gather 80 people who were affected but still surviving, that it [would be] clearly indicative that a major event had taken place," he said.

Sellstrom revealed in the interview that the team had chosen 40 people from the original 80 identified as survivors by the opposition. Of those, 36 people described themselves as having had very serious exposure to sarin. Thirty of the 36 reported rocket strikes either on or near their homes. The remaining six said they had gone to a point of impact to help those suffering from the attack.

The UN report provided detailed statistics on the symptoms reported by the 36 individuals and concluded the data were "consistent with organophosphate intoxication". But chemical weapons specialists have identified serious contradictions in the data that appear to indicate the contrary.

Twenty-eight of the 36 victims - nearly four-fifths of the sample - said they had experienced loss of consciousness, according to the September 16 UN report. The second most frequent symptom was difficulty breathing, which was reported by 22 of the 36, followed by blurred vision, which was suffered by 15 of them. But only five of the 36 reported miosis, or constricted pupils.

That fact is an indication that the exposure to sarin was actually minimal or nonexistent for 31 of the 36, or 86% of the sample. Miosis is the most basic and reliable indicator of nerve gas poisoning, according to chemical weapons literature and specialists who analyzed the report.

As little as four milligrams of sarin per cubic meter for just two minutes would have triggered that physiological response, according to an April 17 e-mail from UK-based American chemical weapons specialist Dan Kaszeta. A 2002 article in the journal Critical Care Medicine put the minimum exposure necessary to cause miosis at one milligram of sarin per cubic meter for three minutes.

Yet miosis was the least prevalent symptom among those people claiming to have been very seriously exposed to sarin in Syria.

Dr Abbas Faroutan, an Iranian physician who treated Iranian victims of Iraqi nerve gas attacks, noted that the data were "not logical".

Seven of the 36 people identified as victims told investigators they had lost a combined total of 39 members of their immediate families who were killed in buildings they said were either points of impact of the rockets or only 20 meters away. However, only one of the seven exhibited the constriction of pupils and only one reported nausea and vomiting.

Despite the paucity of the most fundamental indicator of exposure to sarin, 31 of the 36 were found to have a trace of sarin in their blood samples.

That seeming contradiction is explained by the fact that even exposure to an amount of sarin too small to cause any symptoms would be detected in the blood using an extremely sensitive method called fluoride reactivation, according to Kaszeta.

The UN team found that six of the people who claimed serious exposure to sarin had no trace of sarin in their blood at all, indicating that they had in fact experienced no exposure to sarin at all.

Kaszeta said he had concluded that the people interviewed and evaluated by the UN "didn't have serious exposure" to nerve gas.

The indication that the overwhelming majority in the sample had very little or no exposure to sarin was particularly significant, because those in the sample had been chosen by local opposition authorities as being among the most serious affected survivors. The data suggest that the Syrian opposition and its external supporters had vastly exaggerated the scope and severity of the attack.

In an apparent reference to the questionable data on symptoms collected on the 36 alleged survivors, Sellstrom told Winfield the investigators "need to be better at differential diagnostics on the intoxication, better medical markers."

Selstrom also expressed doubt about the numbers of victims said to have been treated at local hospitals. The UN investigators visited two of the three hospitals in the Damascus suburbs that had treated victims of the attack and had provided figures for the numbers of victims they had treated.

"[T]he figures they provided of people who passed through them was just not possible," said Sellstrom. "It is impossible that they could have turned over the amount of people they claim they did."

Sellstrom did not refer to the total number of victims claimed by hospital administrators, but Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) issued a statement August 24 that three hospitals near the area of the attack had reported to MSF that they "received approximately 3,600 patients displaying neurotoxic symptoms in less than three hours on the morning of Wednesday, August 21, 2013". MSF said 355 had died.

Sellstrom repeated his doubts about the total number of victims of sarin intoxication and the numbers of patients said to have been treated in hospitals in a March 11 interview with the website "Syria in Crisis" affiliated with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

The head of the Syria investigation had also investigated the use of chemical weapons by Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war for the UN. He had been chief inspector for UNSCOM, the UN Commission on Iraq's compliance with the ban on weapons of mass destruction, and head of its successor, UNMOVIC.

He has apparently questioned the larger narrative of Syrian government culpability for the attack as well. In an interview with the Wall Street Journal after the release of the December UN investigation report, Sellstrom said he believes both sides in the Syrian conflict had the "opportunity" and the "capability" to "carry out chemical weapons attacks".

Gareth Porter, an investigative historian and journalist specializing in US national security policy, received the UK-based Gellhorn Prize for journalism for 2011 for articles on the US war in Afghanistan. His new book Manufactured Crisis: the Untold Story of the Iran Nuclear Scare, was published on February 14.

(Inter Press Service)
 

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Iraq F-16 First Flight

Two Lockheed Martin test pilots successfully completed the first flight of the inaugural F-16 Fighting Falcon for the Iraqi Air Force on 2 May 2014 at the company’s facility in Fort Worth, Texas. The F-16D is the first of thirty-six F-16 Block 52 aircraft on order through the US Department of Defense for Iraq. The aircraft will be delivered later this year.

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US approves $790 million light attack aircraft deal for Iraq
By: GREG WALDRONSINGAPORE Source: Flightglobal.com in 4 hours
The US state department has approved the possible sale of 24 Beechcraft AT-6C Texan II basic trainer/light attack aircraft to Iraq.
The deal is valued at $790 million and includes spare parts, training, and logistics, according to a Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) statement.

The proposed deal would be conducted through the US Foreign Military Sales mechanism.

The AT-6C proposal makes no mention of weapons, but includes “two spare [BAE Systems] ALE-47 counter-measure dispensing systems and two spare [ATK] AAR-47 missile launch detection systems,” suggesting the aircraft will also be deployed in a light attack role.

In the attack role, the AT-6C can carry an electro optical/infrared sensor mounted beneath the fuselage. It also comes equipped with a pair of .50 calibre machine guns and laser-guided bombs and missiles.

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“The proposed sale of these aircraft, equipment, and support will enhance the ability of the Iraqi forces to sustain themselves in their efforts to bring stability to Iraq and to prevent overflow of unrest into neighboring countries,” says the DSCA.

According to Flightglobal’s World Air Forces directory, Iraq already operates 15 T-6As.

Baghdad’s apparent interest in the AT-6C follows a deal in December 2013 to acquire 24 Korea Aerospace Industries T-50 advanced jet trainers. Sources close the KAI deal say Iraq is actually acquiring the armed FA-50 variant of the Korean trainer, which has strong light attack capabilities.

The AT-6C deal is part of a larger package, which also includes $90 million for seven aerostats and 14 rapid aerostat initial deployment systems, as well as ground vehicles. Raytheon is the prime contractor for the aersotat deal.

“The proposed [aerostat] sale would facilitate progress towards increasing Iraq’s ability to provide protection of national level command and control sites, military installations, and other critical infrastructure against terrorist attacks,” says the DSCA.
US sends Texans....
 

Bernard

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Israeli Military News

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Sons of Sa’ar? Israel’s Next Generation Frigates

The 1,227t/ 1,350 ton Sa’ar 5 Eilat Class corvettes were built by Northrop Grumman in the 1990s for about $260 million each. It’s a decent performer in a number of roles, from air defense to anti-submarine work, to coastal patrol and special forces support. In 2006, the Israelis went looking for a next-generation vessel with better high-end capabilities. Six years later, Israel had nothing to show for its search. In the meantime, massive natural gas deposits have been discovered within Israel’s coastal waters, adding considerable urgency to their search.

The USA is Israel’s logical supplier, but given Israel’s size and cost requirements, the only American option was the Littoral Combat Ship. Israel pursued that option for several years, conducting studies and trying to get a better sense of feasibility and costs. Their approach would have been very different from the American Freedom Class LCS, removing the swappable “mission modules” and replacing them with a fixed and fully capable set of air defense, anti-ship, and anti-submarine weapons. In the end, however, the project was deemed to be unaffordable. Instead, Israel began negotiating with Germany, and reports now include discussions involving both South Korea, and a local shipyard

There are some pictures I'd like to post on here but still having trouble with that. If someone could PM me how.
 

bd popeye

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Bernard. I have a lot of respect for the nation of Israel and the Israeli military. However I cannot allow a separate thread for the Israeli military simply because of it's small size and the relativity small size of our forum. If I did I'd have to allow a thread for Bahrain , Belize etc..I've done this several times in the past. I hope you understand.

Please post all your Israeli military news in this thread.


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Jeff Head

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US Shipbuilder, VT Halter Marine, delivers 1st Ambassadir Mk III FAC to Egypt


[video=youtube;3lEiknOU90s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lEiknOU90s[/video]
Ambassador Mk II Class. Very fast and very heavily armed

I do not know how many SD members missed this late last year, but the Egyptian Navy received the first of four of these US designed and built fast Attack Craft late in 2013 from VT Halter Marine out of Pascagoula, FL. The Ambassador II Class FAC is an impressive, heavily armed and very fast vessel:

Length: 198 ft.
Width: 32 ft.
Draft: 7 ft.
Displacement: 650 tons
Propuslion: 4 x MTU Diesels, 4 shafts
Speed: 41 knots
Crew: 36
Armament:
1 x 76mm DP gun
8 x Harpoon Missiles
1 x 21 RAM Missiles
1 x 20mm Phlanx CIWS
 

FORBIN

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I do not know how many SD members missed this late last year

I was not sure because some weapons ( F-16, AH-64 ) were not were delivered due to the political situation.
 

Jeff Head

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I was not sure because some weapons ( F-16, AH-64 ) were not were delivered due to the political situation.
Yes...but this vessel has been delivered, and itis a very decent, and very heavily armed vessel for its size.

But also not cheap. Something over $250 million as I understand.
 
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asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Very good news coming out from Turkey after a 2 year delay the steel cutting of the first large LST has been done and construction can start quickly

LCT project is done the LST is starting and the LHD is decided very good for Turkey

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asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Here's picture of each LST from Turkey built inside Turkey as will all project be

They are pennants C-151 to C-158 and can transport 7 x MBT and in sea trials one clocked 22 knots!

This gives Turkey the ability to land 56 x MBT on shore far away at speed add in the two LST and we have over 100 x MBT

C-151
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C-152
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C-153
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C-154
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C-155
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C-156
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C-157
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C-158
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LCT carrying 7 x MBT


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