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Nevermore

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Remain calm. The rumours of Turkey stealing Chinese drone technology from Pakistan date back many years, and these claims circulated only within a very limited circle in China. To date, no concrete evidence has emerged. We must recognise that there are numerous self-media outlets within China actively disseminating false information.

Technically speaking, Turkey possesses the industrial and educational capabilities to develop its own unmanned aerial vehicle technology entirely independently. On the other hand, whether through exports or joint development, some degree of technological leakage is inevitable. However, I do not believe that mere rumours can conclusively prove that Pakistan leaked Chinese technology, let alone infer from this that China's senior leadership mistrusts Pakistan.

From a geopolitical perspective, Pakistan serves as China's steadfast bulwark, a strategic trump card to counterbalance India, and a vital bridge to the Middle East. The significance of Sino-Pakistani relations is beyond question.
 

phrozenflame

Junior Member
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Can we have off topic discussions in relevant forums.

I recall a specific bunch of users driving a specific agenda sourced from no-where, were out in force until 6-0 silenced many of them.

Atleast Pakistani fanboi rumours still have questionable sources like certain twitter accounts.

Here we do not even have a single published source in any media.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Oh you sweet summer child
Sorry but you're the sweet summer child if you believed that rumor. Is this type of behavior common in your country so they thought it'd be believable if they made it up about someone else, huh, Mr. Turk-whom-other-Turks-claim-is-definitely-not-a-Turk? LOL They do say that every country has good and bad people but in Turkey, even the trees will try to scam you.
 
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vincent

Grumpy Old Man
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Chinese media, not official news. This kind of things can't officially announced. you don't understand anyway
If you can understand chinese media, you will run into the discussion by yourself.
So what's the point showing you.

Anyway, Chinese media points out alot of Turkey engineers live in Pakistan now . They are ready to jump to dissect J35 once it shipped to Paksitan.
Both Turkey and Pakistan are up to No good.

Ironically, despite Turkey stole a number of orders from its kaan fighters it orders some eurofighter lol.
That means they don't trust kaan fighter themselves. They don't have Aesa radar tech and they don't have the turbofan. This kaan will be a liability.
Turkey had proposed to China it wants to buy WS10C or WS15 to power kaan. But China told Turkey to get lost.
Which chinese media? Links?
 

amchan

New Member
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If nobody is willing to link evidence for their claims this whole argument is utterly worthless. This goes for the claims by the Turks as well.
 

zyklon

Junior Member
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Pakistan has lost substantial trust from China as a result of being an accomplice in helping Turkey stealing China drones and JF-17 technology based on supposedly Muslim Brotherhood. Turkey's stolen tech allows it rob China market share of drones in middle east as well Kaan fighter jet orders.
Pakistan got nothing in return from Turkey in sharing Chinese aviation tech. Karma Strikes.
Pakistan right now has close tie with Trump and allows US partnership in its oil business in Balochistan.
In return, US declares militants in Balochistan as terrorists. The same group that attacked Chinese earlier.
China is really leery about Pakistan right now. Its becoming a untrust worthy partner.

This is all over the chinese media and discussion.

Don't fart and run away. Don't post inflammatory rumors then.

Remain calm. The rumours of Turkey stealing Chinese drone technology from Pakistan date back many years, and these claims circulated only within a very limited circle in China. To date, no concrete evidence has emerged. We must recognise that there are numerous self-media outlets within China actively disseminating false information.

Technically speaking, Turkey possesses the industrial and educational capabilities to develop its own unmanned aerial vehicle technology entirely independently. On the other hand, whether through exports or joint development, some degree of technological leakage is inevitable. However, I do not believe that mere rumours can conclusively prove that Pakistan leaked Chinese technology, let alone infer from this that China's senior leadership mistrusts Pakistan.

From a geopolitical perspective, Pakistan serves as China's steadfast bulwark, a strategic trump card to counterbalance India, and a vital bridge to the Middle East. The significance of Sino-Pakistani relations is beyond question.

If nobody is willing to link evidence for their claims this whole argument is utterly worthless. This goes for the claims by the Turks as well.

Let's not be surprised that Turkey has leveraged its close relationship with Pakistan to access, investigate and reverse engineer superior Chinese weapons systems.

The Turkish authorities and their favored defense contractors would be stupid — if not irresponsible to themselves — to not try.

Likewise, it's inevitable certain individual Pakistani officers and officials — or even groupings thereof who are susceptible to bribes and blackmail — would agree to facilitate such Turkish espionage efforts, even if such violations of Chinese trust are not necessarily sanctioned by Pakistan's seniormost leadership.

The problem is: if you're the ISI and you bust colleagues helping your Turkish allies steal technologies belonging to your Chinese allies, do you try to shove everything under the table and quietly push the offenders into retirement, or do you publicize what occurred? Likewise, would Beijing admonish Islamabad for such shenanigans in private or public?

The answers here are pretty obvious, and it's why China's approach towards Pakistan is not one of "blind trust," but to "trust and verify," with limits on what the Pakistanis will and will not get access to until "the time is right" (e.g. the PAF's induction of the J-10CE following the IAF's acquisition of the Rafale).
 

ougoah

Brigadier
Registered Member
I feel like there's a lot of Indian psychological warfare being waged in recent weeks. Main efforts focus on driving this wedge between Pakistan and China in light of recent Indian humiliation in geopolitics.

Has one single shred of evidence been presented about these apparent Chinese media saying Pakistan isn't trusted? I haven't seen any and I'm Chinese.

Clearly these Indian efforts are working on some people.

This is what India does. It's the only shit they're good at.

They learned from the best, their former masters.
 
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