Ordinary PLA infantrymen
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well once you have fired a full-charge with 122mm howitzer, You tend to feel handguns to be somewhat ...sissy
But it was shame really, that in artillery we didnt shoot with our RK62's as much as I would have enjoyed...nor didn't we get to shoot with anything else, like pistols, LMGs or sniper rifles...
aquilis182
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We are modernizing our weaponry... The M16A2 It's kindda old I agree with but still considere as one of the must formidable asault riffles in the world... Personally I finded very good I hit 300 meeter target with no problem we cleaned once or twice at day and its enough, honestly I haven't fire an AK yet scince im not exactly infantry... but some of my buddys already fire the riffle and say... It feel more than a machinegun rather than an asault riffle... cause they canot fire nearly as acurate with the ak than the M16s Whats the point to spend couple of rounds to "try" to hit something than you can hit with only one round... a round it's a round... I compare the Ak with mike tyson and the M16 with muhhamed ali... I bet acuracy defeat strengt... In the cases of the PLA assault riffle its even worst... they use their won versions of they AK... the Type 56 assault riffle... less reliable than the ak... other than that pretty mush the same, combine a less acurate weapon with ill trained soldier... that result in a miss fire, now compare an very acurate weapon with a well trained soldiers... almost sure shoot... even if an U.S. infantry get the ak... they still fire better than the chinese due their trainning. now lets talk about U.S. not modernizing their weapons? You know what is an XM8 assault riffle? If you don't this gonna be the standard infantry riffle for U.S. Forces in very few years... I still don't like the idea than that riffle may be better in overrall performance but seems that it's not likeley to hatch a bayonet to it... that may sound not very important but belive me it is... Me ussing U.S. military as benchmark? We U.S. soldiers have the (I have to admit) bad habit to put what it's better as a standard thats why we chaptered out a lot of soldiers of our military... We want quantity, but we prefer quality. We prefered 300 spartans than 1000 persians... I don't know if you get it buddy.
f.hind
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XM8 program was scrapped. Sorry to disappoint but i think you'll be stuck with your M16 for a while yet
What you say about accuracy vs reliability is very true, however the PLA have come a long way since the type 56. Theres nothing wrong with wanting accuracy AND reliability.
szbd
Junior Member
You are talking about PLA in 1970s. When I was in high school military training in 1993, I fired type 81-1.
I see a lot of people misunderstood the PAP s role in the previous post
Therefore I hereby give a little of my own insignificant knowledge. Hope experts can add a little to it.
There are eight major categories in PAP,
1. border security Unit
2. Forest Patrol Unit (For environment protection maybe, Can someone enlighten me?)
3. Gold Mining Unit (Again Can someone enlighten me about their duties?)
4. hydropower facilities Unit (Again Can someone enlighten me about their duties?)
5. Traffic Unit? (Again & again can someone enlighten me about their duties?)
6. Fire fighters (Yeah, they belong to the PAP, actually I use to see them everyday, professional, climbing faster than the monkeys, just like all the other firefighters, they are the bravest man I have ever seen)
7. Construction Unit (Professional Unit, Construct and Maintain Infrastructure Under some of the most difficult weather conditions and terrains, for example Tibet)
8. Internal Security Unit ( That is the PAP everyone is talking about, about 800,000, duties ranged from counter insurgency, suppress, criminal justice rescue missions to security & personal protection, Actually just an upgraded version of US policeman)
Therefore I hereby give a little of my own insignificant knowledge.
Hope experts can add a little to it.There are eight major categories in PAP,
1. border security Unit
2. Forest Patrol Unit (For environment protection maybe, Can someone enlighten me?)
3. Gold Mining Unit (Again Can someone enlighten me about their duties?)
4. hydropower facilities Unit (Again Can someone enlighten me about their duties?)
5. Traffic Unit? (Again & again can someone enlighten me about their duties?)
6. Fire fighters (Yeah, they belong to the PAP, actually I use to see them everyday, professional, climbing faster than the monkeys, just like all the other firefighters, they are the bravest man I have ever seen)
7. Construction Unit (Professional Unit, Construct and Maintain Infrastructure Under some of the most difficult weather conditions and terrains, for example Tibet)
8. Internal Security Unit ( That is the PAP everyone is talking about, about 800,000, duties ranged from counter insurgency, suppress, criminal justice rescue missions to security & personal protection, Actually just an upgraded version of US policeman)
szbd
Junior Member
Hydropower facilities Unit is a result of 1984's 1 million disarmament. A lot of construction units were transfered to PAP and most of them further transfered to civil companies. But the hydropower facilities Unit remains, for construction and guarding waterdams in dangerous or very important places.
Chengdu J-10
Junior Member
What a load of c##p comparing Chinese soldiers and US soldiers stating that US soldiers are better trained. How do you know that US soldiers are better trained than Chinese soldiers? What through some papers and articles that US pros wrote. China military activities are covered more heavily than the US even realises. The US gives the impression that Chinese soldiers are ill equipped and trained, with only handful of well trained and well equipped. As to the Type 56 I have no idea what you are going on about cause PLA troops use Type 81 and 95 now. Chinese troops are pretty well trained and this is not refering to the elite forces of the PLA. Equipment yes I must agree to you on that one to a certain degree of the bulk of Chinese soldiers. But the amount of modern equipment pouring into the PLA is increasing and soon about 3-4 more years the PLA troops will all have modern rifles and equipments. Give a Chinese troop an AK-47 and im sure they will be lethal with it. Chinese troops are not push overs, which your post is giving me this strong impression of what you are writting.
You are just making yourself look very silly with this very superficial and ill informed statement. It appears you are in abit of a dreamworld.
Infact why are you constantly comparing the PLA with the US military when the entire topic has nothing to do with comparisons with any other organisations.
And i am sure any true veteran soldiers, air men and sailors in here will agree that there is no real such thing as the "best". It is all a matter of how they are used.
I myself have no doubts about the level of training that each PLA soldier receives depending on their role which makes them effective as an entity of the entire army.
And machine guns can be fired with good accuracy too, depending on how you want to discharge the weapon.
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Interesting thread. My I just add that whoever is whining about this gun or that gun being unreliable, has obviously never worked with the SA-80. Britain rules again!!!!
PLA infantryman may have crap training, but at least his gun doesn't melt if he uses insect repellant.
PLA infantryman may have crap training, but at least his gun doesn't melt if he uses insect repellant.