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Protestors deploy sharpened bamboo stakes in fortified barricades.

星島日報 : 佔中布防 金鐘驚現穿心竹枝陣

星島日報 2014-10-14 新聞 (節錄)

為抵抗警方清除路障行動,佔中人士加強防禦工事,金鐘昨晚驚現以竹棚改製而成的「穿心劍」陣,其中不少被削尖的竹枝,沒有套上膠樽或膠袋作為「保護罩」,一旦與警方展開「攻防戰」,殺傷力不容忽視。

對於示威者加強「戰陣」,擬將行動升級,退休高級警司何明新認為,示威者利用大量竹支穿插搭建在鐵馬上,不僅阻截外來入侵,還可人手推鐵馬以活動式撞人,儼如古時的戰車,屬非常危險的武器。

他強調,若示威者以「戰車」撞向警員或任何人,前綫警務人員在毫無選擇餘地下,為了保護自己和其他人的生命,他相信警方必須使用的最低武力就是開槍,直至對方的攻擊行動停止。因此,他呼籲各方都要保持克制,以免造成流血悲劇。

Star Island daily: accounted for in the defending Admiralty discovered wear heart bamboo branch array Star Island daily 2014-10-14 News (excerpt) for resistance police cleared roadblocks action, accounted for in the persons strengthened defense fortifications, Admiralty last night discovered to bamboo shed restructuring and into of "wear heart sword" array, which many was cut pointed of bamboo branch, no sets Shang glue bottles or glue bags as "protection cover", once and police started "offensive and defensive war", lethality not ignored.

Demonstrators reinforce "war", action is proposed to be upgraded, retired senior Superintendent, Mr HO believe that demonstrators set up iron railings with a lot of bamboo interspersed on not only intercept invasive, also be staff pushing iron railings to movable charges, like the ancient chariot, is a very dangerous weapon. He stressed that if protesters "chariot" ramming the police officers or anyone else, front-line police officers under a Hobson's choice, in order to protect themselves and the lives of others, he believed that police must use minimum force to shoot until their cessation of attacks. Therefore, he called on all parties to exercise restraint, so as to avoid the bloody tragedy. (Translated by Bing)
 

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Two Hong Kong police officers vs. three hundred OC protestors
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[香港两警察对决三百多人]昨凌晨一点, 占中者一名男子把水樽投出馬路, 击中一辆私家車. 被二名警員拘捕, 三百多占中者乎拉一下围了上來, 試图救走嫌疑犯, 二名警員立马摆出决一死战的架势(见图一,二) 一下把他们震住,都不敢动了,相持了25分钟后援兵赶到完成了任务。

At around one past midnight, two police officers arrested an OC protestor who threw a bottle at a passing by car. About three hundred protestors immediately surrounded the officers in an attempt to retrieve the detainee. The protesters and the officers entered a stalemate as the two officers prepared to fight to the death (see photos). This stalemate lasted approximately twenty-five minutes until police reinforcement arrived.
 
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Members may have noticed that police officers in Hong Kong come in two varieties: blue shirts and white shirts. Blue shirts are regular officers while shirts are inspectors.

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The ranks of the two officers are sector commander and sub unit commander.

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Moment before Paula Bronstein was arrested, photo from MingPao

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The Foreign Correspondents’ Club issued a statement late on Friday to condemn the detention of an expatriate journalist who was covering the Occupy protests in Mong Kok.

The statement said award-winning Getty photographer Paula Bronstein was detained by police during the protests, adding that other journalists at the scene had also been threatened with use of force.

“These tactics are a flagrant violation of the media’s right to report this unfolding story,” the FCC statement read. It also demanded the immediate release of Bronstein and an end to the intimidation.



Western photo journalists and anyone with a camera or video pretending to be one coming up for close-up images, and at least one non-Chinese 'photographer" handing and helping those demonstrating with the ties or whatever. With his back turned agains the police, journalist crossing the line - wondering what he is going to write, and 99% sure at least a handful of police standing by in silence saw it all.

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Hong Kong protests: Western media reports biased against China, says Singapore Foreign Minister K. Shanmugam



There has been much anti-China bias in Western media's reporting on Hong Kong's situation, said Foreign Minister K. Shanmugam, as he sought to offer another perspective on the current stand-off between Occupy Central protesters and the authorities that is now entering its eighth day.

Speaking to Lianhe Zaobao in an interview published on Saturday, Mr Shanmugam said that western media reports have made Beijing out to be "denying democracy" and acting to infringe on freedoms that have made Hong Kong so successful.

The truth, he said, is that Hong Kong did not have democracy during 150 years of British rule.

Beijing's proposal for Hong Kongers to elect their leader from a vetted list - what the tens of thousands of protesters in Hong Kong are currently amassed against - is actually much more than what the British had ever offered.

Before the handover to China in 1997, neither the British rulers nor the Hong Kong media thought Hong Kong needed democracy, he pointed out; universal suffrage was also not included in the Sino-British Joint Declaration of 1984, the agreement that cemented the terms of the handover.

"The Western media does not report these facts," he said.

Mr Shanmugam put the Chinese government's hard line towards the Occupy Central protesters in the context of its overarching governance priorities.

At this stage in its development, China's primary goal is unity, progress and a better life for 1.3 billion people, he said, and its leadership believes that it can achieve this only by good governance and avoiding the ills of multi-party democracy.

China's GDP per capita today is US$6,800 (S$8,708), and Chinese leaders will want to achieve the goal of becoming a moderately prosperous country before they will contemplate any move to democratise.

Two examples confirm Beijing's belief, he noted.

First is the dysfunction and partisan gridlock of the political system in the United States, which has deteriorated to the point of being unable to pass a budget for years or address any pressing governance issues like immigration reform, improving public education or handling crime and violence.

Because of short electoral cycles, the US government is also unable to plan for the long-term, he said.

China, as a poorer, less developed country, believes that it "cannot afford the luxury of such dysfunctionality", he said.

The second reaffirming example Beijing looks to is the break-up of the Soviet Union in 1991, which Chinese leaders see as a cautionary tale of what happens when political restructuring precedes economic reform.

In the 1980s, Soviet Union president Mikhail Gorbachev implemented a policy of glastnost - openness - as the Soviet Union tried to reform, unleashing democratising forces that ultimately unseated his own government.

"So China will be firm: it is not going to institute any major political change to copy the Western models - in the short term," he said.

"The leadership will believe that any such move will be disastrous for China and will hurt the people of China," he added.

And since whatever happens in Hong Kong can have an impact on the rest of China, giving in to the protesters' demands, from Beijing's point-of-view, may affect the stability of China as a whole, he noted.

This perspective, said Mr Shanmugam, "is entirely understandable".

China is also suspicious of the protests and wonders if Western countries have a hand in stoking up sentiment, he noted.

Mr Shanmugam said that it must be asked if the average Hong Konger is prepared for the trade-offs of a protracted stand-off with Beijing.

"There needs to be clear understanding that China has acted in accordance with the Basic Law," he said, referring to Hong Kong's mini Constitution that enshrines the "one country, two systems" principle.

"If Hong Kongers want a change from the Basic Law - they have to recognise that Hong Kong is part of China, and there are some things China will accept, and some things which are red lines for China."

"And there needs to be a clear understanding of Hong Kong's extreme reliance on China for jobs and (its) livelihood," he said, adding: "There needs to be a clear understanding of China's largesse towards Hong Kong even as an anti-China mood is stoked up."

Mr Shanmugam believed that the Occupy Central protests will not affect Singapore.

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Even division commander is out on the street.

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By the rank and ethnicity, the division commander was most likely with the police force before Hong Kong's handover. The Basic Law guarantees the employment of foreign nationals who were already public servants of Hong Kong Government before the handover.
 
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Occupy Central: Holding Hong Kong’s 'Silent Majority' Hostage

The majority of Hongkongers are against the protests, which pose a serious threat to the rule of law and social stability.

“Greek, ‘rule by the people’.” This is the definition of “democracy” given by Oxford Concise Dictionary of Politics. It adds, “Since the people are rarely unanimous, democracy as a descriptive term is synonymous with majority rule.”

Who are the majority in Hong Kong, especially in this chaotic situation? According to recent polls conducted by University of Hong Kong, as of October 2014, 54 percent of the interviewees in Hong Kong opposed “Occupy Central.” By contrast, only 27 percent of Hongkongers support this movement.

Interestingly, those who oppose the Occupy Central movement (including groups like “Silent Majority for Hong Kong”) have been quickly labeled as “pro-Beijing” by the “pan-democratic” camp in Hong Kong as well as the West. In general, the term “pro-Beijing” is used to differentiate these groups from others who identify as “pro-democratic” or “pan-democratic.” But this begs the question: Does being “pro-Beijing” naturally equate to a moral and legal “anti-democratic” stance? After all, the Occupy supporters are in the minority. Does the West believe that the minority’s violation of the rule of law and their destruction of social stability is a genuinely pure democracy? Should the Oxford Dictionary revise its definition of “democracy” to include the rule of the minority?

Robert Chow, spokesman for the Alliance for Peace and Democracy in Hong Kong, clarified in a discussion with Bloomberg TV that the alliance speaks for Hong Kong people. Chow said his group started to speak out since the Occupy movement has been holding the “silent majority” “hostage” over the past days. It truly has been a political kidnapping, especially when we remember that “Occupy” was a worldwide, impetuous movement mainly carried by an agitated younger generation. Isn’t this movement a violation of the rule of law, a central value upheld by true believers in democracy? Meanwhile, if people want to criticize the Hong Kong police’s recent move to restore order and the rule of law in Hong Kong, please don’t forget that nearly 8,000 protesters have been arrested in the U.S. since the Occupy movement began in 2011.

Some protestors may truly wish to realize an ultimately pure democracy in Hong Kong. Still, the fact is that this Special Administrative Region, as a part of China, has actually enjoyed a higher degree of autonomy and democracy than it had at any time during Hong Kong’s 150-year history as a British colony. Prior to 1997, the heads (governors) of Hong Kong were never elected by the Hong Kong people, much less chosen through a “one person, one vote” direct election. It was not until 1997 when Hong Kong people (the 400 members of the Selection Committee) truly voted and elected their first chief executive.

Yes, pure democracy is a good thing, but it definitely requires a long process. Without a progressive approach that includes a process of “localization,” pure democracy risks causing uncontrollable social chaos and political disasters. We’ve already seen this happen in some Arab and Eurasian states after the so-called “Arab Spring” and “color revolutions.”

In Hong Kong, these young college students and even high-school teenagers could have won good will for seeking a more democratic and better future for Hong Kong. The problem lies in the extreme, irresponsible, and impetuous way they have chosen to express their political will. Ironically, they themselves are providing the most direct challenge to their original ideals. Their idealism and impetuosity is a dangerous combination.

Meanwhile, the Hong Kong government and Beijing have remained relatively moderate. Their advantage (and their confidence) comes from the majority’s support. Their attitude, a sort of realist constancy, has proven much more effective than the protestors’ actions of blocking streets and occupying public spaces (especially after perceptions grew that the students were using these spaces as their personal playground).

And, of course, there’s an even thornier question: who is behind these college students and high school teenagers? It’s needless to speculate now; the truth will eventually come out.

I’ll leave readers with Robert Chow’s incisive argument from his Bloomberg interview: “At the end of the day, democracy is giving the vote to the people, let the people decide… It’s not going out to the street, blocking everything and say, ‘Right, I have the might, I have the mob, then I win.’ No, sorry, that is not democracy.”
 

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Guys, remember this is a news/photos/videos only thread. Expect those posts (and this one) to be deleted :eek:
 
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