Feng Hsiung Hsu was the chief architect of the Deep Blue chess computer that defeated Kasparov. He's now working on building a Go playing computer to defeat world champion players (Go is a game that is more complex than chess by several orders of magnitude, so at the moment the best computer can't defeat even a good amateur).
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And since we're on the subject of Go ...
To summarize, even though Go originated in China, Japan eventually dominated the game as they had far more organized schools and more dedicated players. In the early 20th century, the best Chinese players had no chance against the best Japanese. A top player from Japan named Iwamoto Kaoru went on a visit to China, and was told that he had to see a 12 year old boy named Wu Qingyuan. To his shock, the young boy was already of professional strength. He was brought to Japan where he adopted the name Go Seigen (this is simply his Chinese name pronounced in Japanese. The fact that it includes "Go" by coincidence has led some to say that he was born to play Go). He went on to become such a dominating player in Japan that he is considered the greatest Go player of the 20th century, and perhaps of all time. He pioneered a new style of playing known as "Shin Fuseki" which was more dynamic than the stiff patterns previously considered the only good way to play. Unfortunately, he was hit by a motorcycle and had to retire, as the injuries he suffered affected his concentration. He is actually still alive today, at the age of 95.
To summarize, even though Go originated in China, Japan eventually dominated the game as they had far more organized schools and more dedicated players. In the early 20th century, the best Chinese players had no chance against the best Japanese. A top player from Japan named Iwamoto Kaoru went on a visit to China, and was told that he had to see a 12 year old boy named Wu Qingyuan. To his shock, the young boy was already of professional strength. He was brought to Japan where he adopted the name Go Seigen (this is simply his Chinese name pronounced in Japanese. The fact that it includes "Go" by coincidence has led some to say that he was born to play Go). He went on to become such a dominating player in Japan that he is considered the greatest Go player of the 20th century, and perhaps of all time. He pioneered a new style of playing known as "Shin Fuseki" which was more dynamic than the stiff patterns previously considered the only good way to play. Unfortunately, he was hit by a motorcycle and had to retire, as the injuries he suffered affected his concentration. He is actually still alive today, at the age of 95.
bladerunner
Banned Idiot
Do you play the game? I find the game enjoyable, but as you say frustratingly complex, Ive never progressed beyond beginner, for the lack of opportunity.
AssassinsMace
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Damingli85
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I don't think it is possible to make a computer to beat the best Go player.
I do, on the Go server KGS I'm up to 10 kyu ranking, which is enough to annihilate any beginner, but it's still not great.
There's a Go proverb that goes something like: "Lose your first 300 games quickly." You really have to play a bunch of times just to get a feel for good moves, and eventually you begin to recognize familiar patterns.
It certainly was considered unthinkable, but I do think it's possible. Most recently, a Go program was able to defeat an 8 dan Korean professional ... with a 9 stone handicap. Now, a 9 stone handicap is very significant, but if they can get it down to 8 stones in a year, 7 stones in a couple years ...
Here's an article from the man himself, and how he plans to do it:
bladerunner
Banned Idiot
Hey I wonder if thats what the chinese did all those years ago when they claimed their first space launch
vesicles
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bladerunner
Banned Idiot
They must've used hot air balloons since people had to sit in it
Actually, I was thinking of an earlier period, when Chairman Mao was reported to have said " China wasnt able to launch a potatoe" Imagine If a couple of bright sparks like your dad or relatives, come up with that idea and carried it out. Then gone up to him and said " There we are Mr Chairman Mao Sir mission accomplished and all for thirty Yuan". They would have been made national heroes, and been on easy street afterwards
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