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Valiant 1002 said:

The destroyer/frigate that North Korea is building will likely be comparable to China's Type 054A class, after comparing the length and width of the ship.
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It will be much more heavily armed though, considering it will have fixed phased array radars on the superstructure and two VLSs on the bow and stern.

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Doubtful of it being more heavily armed than 054A and we will see how it turns out once they're done making it then do unveiling.
I prefer uninterrupted super structure of PRC's 054's compared to DPRK's frigate being sectioned thus not slick looking unlike 054's.

Hwasong-11A aka KN-23 has accuracy of 50~100 meter circular error probable.

yugocrosrb95 said:

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Flashback to the CJ-10 slamming into a similar building

There have been so many tests and exercises with long range land attack cruise missiles that it probably has been few dozen of them, makes one wonder how many of those DPRK has in stock/wartime reserve. Certainly a few hundred.

yugocrosrb95 said:

There have been so many tests and exercises with long range land attack cruise missiles that it probably has been few dozen of them, makes one wonder how many of those DPRK has in stock/wartime reserve. Certainly a few hundred.

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Well, nothing new. DPRK is known for rather ... crazy ammo production tempos for peacetime.

Gloire_bb said:

Well, nothing new. DPRK is known for rather ... crazy ammo production tempos for peacetime.

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Sure, I wish they made light weight jet trainer considering quantity of long range cruise missiles using miniature turbofan engines.
Considering DPRK had bought Kh-35's in early 2000's that have TRDD-50 engine and seems they have reverse engineered it.
Hence cruise missiles with range of 1500 to 2000 kilometers while Chinese have that has 500 hour work cycle.

Thus there is potential for a jet trainer considering using two TRDD-50 class engines provides comparable thrust for these:
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Difference is far lighter engines with far lower fuel consumption thus aircraft weight can be lower or margins set aside for payload.
Most important is that would consume a fraction of fuel compared to two seat models of MiG-15 and MiG-17 as an example.
Would allow 5 times as much flight time hours for same amount of fuel of latter two consume and improve pilot basics.

Anyway hopefully DPRK develops Kh-101 analogue if their TRDD-50 clones are sufficient to power such to 3500km range.

yugocrosrb95 said:

Sure, I wish they made light weight jet trainer considering quantity of long range cruise missiles using miniature turbofan engines.
Considering DPRK had bought Kh-35's in early 2000's that have TRDD-50 engine and seems they have reverse engineered it.
Hence cruise missiles with range of 1500 to 2000 kilometers while Chinese have

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that has 500 hour work cycle.

Thus there is potential for a jet trainer considering using two TRDD-50 class engines provides comparable thrust for these:

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Difference is far lighter engines with far lower fuel consumption thus aircraft weight can be lower or margins set aside for payload.
Most important is that would consume a fraction of fuel compared to two seat models of MiG-15 and MiG-17 as an example.
Would allow 5 times as much flight time hours for same amount of fuel of latter two consume and improve pilot basics.

Anyway hopefully DPRK develops Kh-101 analogue if their TRDD-50 clones are sufficient to power such to 3500km range.

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The problem is the number of flight hours that you can put on these cruise missiles engines. They are made for a one way ride of a couple of hours at cruise speed.

For a training jet we could talk about the need of engines with thousands of flight hours before overhaul and a dependable reliability even with two engines. DPRK look to have double down on air defenses, artillery, mlrs and medium range ballistic missile enough to cover all South Korea and more. Fighter jets are a nice gravy on top but beside prestige did they really need them ?

Atomicfrog said:

The problem is the number of flight hours that you can put on these cruise missiles engines. They are made for a one way ride of a couple of hours at cruise speed.

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They have successfully manufactured clone/analogue to TRDD-50/36MT thus obstacle is quality of material though I suppose challenge when making engines for single use is to manage to do it at lowest possible cost including materials used in construction of such, at what grade of.

Atomicfrog said:

For a training jet we could talk about the need of engines with thousands of flight hours before overhaul and a dependable reliability even with two engines. DPRK look to have double down on air defenses, artillery, mlrs and medium range ballistic missile enough to cover all South Korea and more. Fighter jets are a nice gravy on top but beside prestige did they really need them ?

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Except very jets used for training in DPRK do not use engines with thousands of flight hours before overhaul and ground based air defense has flaws that air based air defense does not, having both covers what other can not do and having some kind of jet trainer with endurance that can be considerably longer than what is in inventory is an improvement. Chinese have CTF-9 that is TRDD-50/36MT clone with 500 hour operation cycle before overhaul needed thus enough for 2 to 4 years depending on intensity of use of aircraft it is mounted in.

For domestic jet trainer if possible to achieve a design that could carry for example four R-73's thus could find use by patrolling air space against subsonic land attack cruise missiles or carry air to ground missiles since UCAV's can be jammed and hijacked thus rendered useless unless some sort of AI backup is implemented to give autonomy to UCAV's. Another use for such engine could be for domestic use case in transportation such as high ranking officials since two engines would be enough for a very light jet with two pilots and four passengers.

yugocrosrb95 said:

Sure, I wish they made light weight jet trainer considering quantity of long range cruise missiles using miniature turbofan engines.
Considering DPRK had bought Kh-35's in early 2000's that have TRDD-50 engine and seems they have reverse engineered it.
Hence cruise missiles with range of 1500 to 2000 kilometers while Chinese have

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that has 500 hour work cycle.

Thus there is potential for a jet trainer considering using two TRDD-50 class engines provides comparable thrust for these:

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Difference is far lighter engines with far lower fuel consumption thus aircraft weight can be lower or margins set aside for payload.
Most important is that would consume a fraction of fuel compared to two seat models of MiG-15 and MiG-17 as an example.
Would allow 5 times as much flight time hours for same amount of fuel of latter two consume and improve pilot basics.

Anyway hopefully DPRK develops Kh-101 analogue if their TRDD-50 clones are sufficient to power such to 3500km range.

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Training aircraft could be the first step, but let's remember that in the DPRK they are also creating a large drone,

therefore they could also create something more demanding in terms of size and war characteristics, such as a light fighter for example.
In the article concerning the visits to the factories, concerning the engine they write

<<Kim Jong Un also went to the factory manufacturing the engines of strategic cruise missile and armed unmanned aerial vehicle, and set forth important tasks. Noting that the factory has taken lion's share that can not be carried out by other factories in technical refinement and serial production of the newly developed strategic weapons, he specified the ways for steadily increasing the performance and reliability of the engine, a key element in the composition of weapon system, and rapidly expanding its production capacity. He stressed the need to simultaneously and thoroughly ensure the speed and quality and quantity in the production of engines by giving definite precedence to the measures for supplying various kinds of materials necessary for manufacturing engines, adding that the factory should put the production processes on a modern, scientific and precise basis of a higher level and steadily improve the labor and production conditions and civilized living environment of the factory. He requested the officials, workers and technicians of the factory to mass-produce various kinds of cutting-edge strategic weapon engines with their own efforts and technology by giving fullest play to their creative wisdom and enthusiasm and thus make a great contribution to bringing about a revolution in developing new strategic weapons of our style.>>

in addition to the TRDD-50/36MT indicated here in red, it also appears to identify a turboprop indicated in green


and certainly a more powerful and high-performance engine for the maxi drone