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magmunta

Just Hatched
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Here's my take on the new Hwasong-19 that north Korea tested yesterday; I am sure this has been speculated by others before me. That 11-axel transporter should be too slow on the limited available highways in north Korea and won't very likely survive a preemptive strike on north Korea. So, I believe that launch and that transporter are designed for propagandish purposes rather than actual second strike guarantor. That launcher is so large that you can't really hide it from satellites in north Korea. A more credible second strike option would be an eight-axel launcher, like df-41 , topol-m or yars, which can disperse, hide and move more efficiently. Of course, one may say that north Korea doesn't have necessary technology to design and manufacture eight -axel transporter and a missile capable of striking USA mainland due to miniaturization deficiencies. If that's the case for north Korea, and that may very well be the case, north Korea should try to design and manufacture and eight -axel transporters, at least, comparable to topol-m. They better develop necessary technology rather than produce bigger and bigger transporters. That's my take, feel free to criticize it.
 

Gloire_bb

Captain
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That 11-axel transporter should be too slow on the limited available highways in north Korea and won't very likely survive a preemptive strike on north Korea.
North Koreans are known to dig the same way China does it. Tunnel systems are made for vehicles. They aren't and shouldn't be compared with Russian vehicles which disperse into virgin Taiga many times the size of North Korea.

Both launchers make sense - here we have a true heavy ICBM, which likely will be able to accept both larger warhead (or warheads) and pen aids against US ABM - which is credible against DPRK-sized threat.

Btw, as a notice - at this point we can unironically say, that DPRK is in big 5 in ICBM design. UK is long gone from the list, and India/Pakistan aren't even close either.
 

chinois49

New Member
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The new north korean missile: The TEL is 11 axles, my estimated dimensions if the second stage is the first stage of the Hwasong-18.
Diameter of the first stage 2.2m, length at least 22m
It flew 1000km for an altitude reached of 7687 km.
Mass at least 60 tons
hwasong-19.jpg


Curious detail: a satellite must have been destabilized by the craft. If they passed so close, they can pepper it with shotgun pellets
:o

sat.jpg

What is it? :eek:
 

yugocrosrb95

Junior Member
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The new north korean missile: The TEL is 11 axles, my estimated dimensions if the second stage is the first stage of the Hwasong-18.
Diameter of the first stage 2.2m, length at least 22m
It flew 1000km for an altitude reached of 7687 km.
Mass at least 60 tons
hwasong-19.jpg
Each wheel is 1.7 meter diameter and length of18.7 meter if there was no space between them. Accounting spacing there is between wheels and sections goes well beyond 22 meters along rear and front of transporter erector launcher vehicle is likely 30 meters. Thus missile is around 25 meters.
 

sequ

Major
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Curious detail: a satellite must have been destabilized by the craft. If they passed so close, they can pepper it with shotgun pellets
:o

sat.jpg

What is it? :eek:
Hwasong-19 confirmed for first ICBM with secondary ASAT capability.
 

chinois49

New Member
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Each wheel is 1.7 meter diameter and length of18.7 meter if there was no space between them. Accounting spacing there is between wheels and sections goes well beyond 22 meters along rear and front of transporter erector launcher vehicle is likely 30 meters. Thus missile is around 25 meters.
The LGM-118 Peacekeeper is 21.8m length and 2.34m diameter for 87 tons...
I measured from the diameter of the second stage which is known if it is the first stage of the Hwasonpho-18 (1.8m)
 

yugocrosrb95

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The LGM-118 Peacekeeper is 21.8m length and 2.34m diameter for 87 tons...
I measured from the diameter of the second stage which is known if it is the first stage of the Hwasonpho-18 (1.8m)
Diameter of canister containing ICBM is at least 3 meter if not greater than that hence it is certain Hwasong-19 is in every regard larger and heavier than Peacemaker ICBM.

Diameter of Hwasong-18 first stage is at least 2 meters and not 1.8 meter as that would be for second and third stage.
 
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