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Gloire_bb

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The MiG-35 is the aircraft in production.
It isn't in service with VKS, and status of its major features (Zhuk-AM&T-220) is still under a big question mark.
It means that all the early bugs are on the 1st customer. DPRK airforce arguably is not rich enough for those games - they need a product.
 

sahureka

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The MiG-35 is the aircraft in production.
I think that is a possible sale, as could be the Yak-130 trainer aircraft, or used Kilo class submarines that Russia still has.
Russia has been producing the Project 636.3 and the 677 to replace older 877 submarines. And there is a precedent of selling used subs.
I remind you again that Russia also signed the UN sanctions against the DPRK and they are currently operational unlike those against Iran.
Therefore in the "light of the sun" Moscow will tend to respect them, unless there is a total upheaval at world level and at the UN.
This does not mean that in complete silence and away from prying eyes he can still help the DPRK.
Mig-35 is an evolution of the Mig-29, therefore easier to implement,
Kilo/877 second hand , also possible the DPRK has numerous naval bases in caves to hide them when not on missions.
but the YAK-130 will be difficult to justify, perhaps better to help create a local version of the Mig-AT in North Korea (possibly also in a single-seat version for light attack), an aircraft which as a satellite could also be exchanged for the Iranian Yasin jet trainer.
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Valiant 1002

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It seems that the only way Russia can circumvent UN sanctions against North Korea is to help them build their own aviation industry.

It doesn't need to be too complicated, just enough to make some simple training and attack aircraft, along with continue assembling the MiG-29 under license.
 

Valiant 1002

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Therefore in the "light of the sun" Moscow will tend to respect them, unless there is a total upheaval at world level and at the UN.
Well, we still have to consider the possibility that Russia will "nah, fk off" and switch to selling weapons to North Korea in a more bold way. I mean, last time they showed Kim the Su-35s and Su-57s. That must mean something... (from a purely military perspective, I'm against Pyongyang buying these planes, though).

In addition, The Diplomat had
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about how Russia could circumvent those sanctions if they wanted to.
 
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Valiant 1002

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I wonder if simple attack aircraft are of any use for the DPRK, especially from Russia.
Like whole point of Russia that it has an advanced MIC.
You know, something like the SOKO J-22 Orao/G-4 Super Galeb. Not too fancy, just a simple machine as an initial step towards achieving strategic autonomy in weapons production.
 

Gloire_bb

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You know, something like the SOKO J-22 Orao/G-4 Super Galeb. Not too fancy, just a simple machine as an initial step towards achieving strategic autonomy in weapons production.
(1)Russia doesn't have anything like that
(2)sounds like a rather useless AMRAAM eater
 

Valiant 1002

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(1)Russia doesn't have anything like that
(2)sounds like a rather useless AMRAAM eater
1. True, Russia does not have such a thing (the closest thing is the Su-25), and Yugoslavia is long dead. But the idea here is that Russia would provide the necessary technology and expertise for Pyongyang to help them design such a thing domestically. Some advanced components such as avionics can be secretly imported.

2. It's an attack fighter/advanced trainer, it doesn't do much when facing enemy aircraft. But it is certain that with its larger weapon load and precision weapon attack capabilities, it will effectively replace the MiG-15/17/19 aircraft in the training and attack role. That would be about 300 aircraft, a large enough number to make manufacturing economical. The old aircrafts can be used as bait or
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sahureka

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Well, we still have to consider the possibility that Russia will "nah, fk off" and switch to selling weapons to North Korea in a more bold way. I mean, last time they showed Kim the Su-35s and Su-57s. That must mean something... (from a purely military perspective, I'm against Pyongyang buying these planes, though).

In addition, The Diplomat had
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about how Russia could circumvent those sanctions if they wanted to.
to mix the cards and make it difficult to precisely identify who delivered what, there could be the option of the SU-27 family, to which the J-11 also belongs, or the North Koreans who came into possession of a couple of examples purchased who knows where , they make a clone "without permission".
But maybe we are just fantasizing and DPRK already has its own indigenous project and all it needs is collaboration to realize it and put it into production.
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