North Korea about to launch Taepodong-2

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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for those who actually pay attention to the news Kim's last appearance looked as if he was seriously ill.

True enough..I read somewhere that he may of had a stroke. I saw a photo of him with a walker..could have been photo shopped.

As for other factions in his government..Humm perhaps others lying in wait to seize power at the correct moment??. This is what tyrants produce. Other Tyrants.
 

Semi-Lobster

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If the Taepodong 2 fizzled out, so did the North Korean military when they tried to find the debris.

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Launch exposed limits of NKorea military: report

The communist state had been unable to track the long-range rocket beyond a certain distance. -AFP

Tue, Apr 07, 2009
AFP

SEOUL - North Korea's rocket launch has exposed the limitations of its military with radar unable to track the object far enough, one ship breaking down and a warplane crashing, a report here said Tuesday.

South Korea's JoongAng Ilbo newspaper, quoting intelligence sources, said the communist state had been unable to track the long-range rocket beyond a certain distance.

"North Korea managed to launch a rocket, but Pyongyang's authorities were somewhat disorganised," one source told JoongAng.

It said a ship which set sail for the Pacific to try to locate the rocket debris had to turn back due to mechanical problems.

The paper also said a MiG-21 jet which was scrambled to protect the launch site crashed due to poor maintenance.

Seoul had learned that North Korean officials involved were "busy passing the buck" over the mission's failure, it reported.

"North Korea claimed it successfully put a satellite into orbit but it did not know where the projectile landed. That's because they had no radar capable of tracking it thousands of kilometres away," the conservative paper said.

Seoul's defence ministry declined comment, a spokesman telling AFP that all he could confirm was that North Korean fighter jets had scrambled.

The National Intelligence Service was not immediately available to comment.

Defying international pressure, North Korea fired a rocket Sunday which it said put a communications satellite into orbit.

Critics led by the United States however say it was a disguised long-range missile test, and have referred it to the UN Security Council.

Despite Pyongyang's claims that the satellite is now orbiting Earth, South Korea, Japan, the US military and a senior Russian official say no such object has been detected in orbit.

Foreign analysts have described the launch as a failed test of a long-range missile, saying it appeared the second and third stages failed to separate and caused the rocket to crash into the Pacific short of the designated area.

South Korean experts said the Taepodong-2 missile still travelled for some 3,200 kilometres (2,000 miles) - double the range the North achieved in 1998 with a Taepodong-1 launch.

North Korea's 1.2 million-strong military is the world's fifth largest. But analysts say the impoverished state has problems equipping it and even in some cases feeding soldiers.

Yonhap news agency, quoting an unidentified Seoul official, said a North Korean commercial vessel departed for the Pacific to try to track the rocket and possibly retrieve debris but had to turn back.

"We don't clearly know the mechanical problem that appears to have prevented the ship from sailing on. It likely has to do with outdated parts," the official was quoted as saying. -- AFP

No word if the 'MiG-21' mentioned was a J-7 or an actual MiG-21 nor which ship suffered from mechanical problems but given how North Korea works, we probably will never know.
 
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Undead Yogurt

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True enough..I read somewhere that he may of had a stroke. I saw a photo of him with a walker..could have been photo shopped.

As for other factions in his government..Humm perhaps others lying in wait to seize power at the correct moment??. This is what tyrants produce. Other Tyrants.



Here's a recent video of Kim's appearance at parliament:

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Apparently Kim will visit China this month.
 

pla101prc

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yea its obvious he had a stroke, aside from lookin weak, you can notice that his mouth is slanted, that's what you get when you have a stroke.

but the western media and their viewers arent reporting this responsibly though, they keep on saying that the launch was a failure and then cite the report that part of the rocket fell...isnt that SUPPOSE to happen?the next thing you know we get these random ppl on washington post telling everyone that the rocket "broke apart" in mid-air...media needs a bit more professionalism than this junk
 

Undead Yogurt

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but the western media and their viewers arent reporting this responsibly though, they keep on saying that the launch was a failure and then cite the report that part of the rocket fell...isnt that SUPPOSE to happen?the next thing you know we get these random ppl on washington post telling everyone that the rocket "broke apart" in mid-air...media needs a bit more professionalism than this junk

I'm pretty sure the PAYLOAD isn't supposed to fall into the ocean. Nk set its own criterium for success: If you say the objective of the rocket launch is to place a satellite into orbit and after the whole shebang there is no new satellite in orbit, then it's a FAILURE. Believe it or not, the western media isn't out to denigrate every East Asian success.
 

pla101prc

Senior Member
i am pretty sure when they were talkin about "falling into the ocean" the were talkin about rocket boosters. before i became interested in military i used to think that the whole thing is supposed to go into the space as well.

i dont have as much faith in the western media as you do,as a student in politics,i have seen the press falter too many times to believe what they say.
 

Finn McCool

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i am pretty sure when they were talkin about "falling into the ocean" the were talkin about rocket boosters. before i became interested in military i used to think that the whole thing is supposed to go into the space as well.

i dont have as much faith in the western media as you do,as a student in politics,i have seen the press falter too many times to believe what they say.

If they actually did want to launch a satellite, there is no satellite, so the launch was a failure.

If they merely wanted to test the missile and the satellite launch claim was a lie, then they were successful more or less. It didn't blow up and it flew pretty far, that's probably good enough for North Korea's publicity purposes.
 

pla101prc

Senior Member
If they actually did want to launch a satellite, there is no satellite, so the launch was a failure.

If they merely wanted to test the missile and the satellite launch claim was a lie, then they were successful more or less. It didn't blow up and it flew pretty far, that's probably good enough for North Korea's publicity purposes.

i dont want to judge this from the technical perspective,cuz 30 years later someone is gonna release some document saying either that there actually was a satellite or there wasnt. its more significant as a political event. the NKer's launched something and the US did not stop it. that's like PLA bombarding Jinmen just to show that the Americans wont help them. its a similar victory as the nuke test, a lot of ppl say that that was a failure as well or it could have just been a crap load of tnt piled together, but guess what, its the politics that matter here. and the press failed to capture that, which in my eyes make them look amateurish
 
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