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voyager1 said:

China is full of these slogans which are meaningless without action

Just check a normal regulation and you will see these stupid slogans.
Its like the Gov cant function without making a slogan

And also lets not forget the "Chinese Standards 2035" stupid stupid. Now the West has already started talking about it and countering this strategy

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I know you don't have confidence on Xi and the Chinese system, the Chinese way is not for others to follow. It's not perfect but it works for them and still under continuous improvement, creating a brand-new world but hated by many.

B.I.B. said:

But what if they managed to convince a lot of the third world to use their standards. In another thread I read how the West are starting to make a play for Africa first through apologizing for their misdeeds. Germany has offered a billion dollars to Namibia to develop infrastructure no doubt to European standards. France Britain Portugal could also follow suit.

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The rest of the world now have a choice to choose because of the Chinese alternative. If they go 100% western standard, they will be going backwards, history will repeat itself.

taxiya said:

They can not. An apology under pressure and coming too late is convincing nobody because everybody knows why. Imagine Chinese and Koreans would believe the Japanese "apology" after decades of Japanese resistance? Hasn't Namibia rejected the late coming German "apology"? Actually Germany does not call "compensation" but "reconciliation development" pretty much like Japan's "aid program" rather than "compensation" to Korea and China. Africans are not stupid to be fooled.

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What you said is logical but look at Vietnam. After what the U.S. do to it, she still looks to the U.S. whenever possible. Have you ever watched those videos by Dr Shashi Tharoor on what the British did to the Indian continent from 17th century under the East India Company and later as a British colony. It was horrific and yet India still loves the West/Britain.
Futhermore, African countries, Botswana Cameroon Ghana Kenya Lesotho Malawi Mauritius Mozambique Namibia Nigeria Rwanda Seychelles Sierra Leone South Africa Swaziland Uganda United Republic of Tanzania Zambia are members of the "Commonwealth of Countries" or what was once the "British Commonwealth", thus giving it an inclination to lean towards the West as first choice

B.I.B. said:

What you said is logical but look at Vietnam. After what the U.S. do to it, she still looks to the U.S. whenever possible. Have you ever watched those videos by Dr Shashi Tharoor on what the British did to the Indian continent from 17th century under the East India Company and later as a British colony. It was horrific and yet India still loves the West/Britain.
Futhermore, African countries, Botswana Cameroon Ghana Kenya Lesotho Malawi Mauritius Mozambique Namibia Nigeria Rwanda Seychelles Sierra Leone South Africa Swaziland Uganda United Republic of Tanzania Zambia are members of the "Commonwealth of Countries" or what was once the "British Commonwealth", thus giving it an inclination to lean towards the West as first choice

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Curious if Vietnam and India would be pro West if China wasn't around to make them depend on their security.

voyager1 said:

Pls no more Mr.Xi!

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Reform, reform, reform. Too slow. The scientists face extreme pressure to have many papers published.
How can you create innovation if you pressure your scientists to publish meaningless papers just to keep up with the benchmarked numbers?

Scientists need time for their research. They dont need to publish papers every 2-3 months. Have them stay locked up for a year or 2 and then start talking about quantity of papers.

Some changes have been implemented but many more need to done.

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It's fine to have an opinion but seriously can you just not cry wolf with your overly dramatic speeches every time there is any piece of news that you don't agree to? You've been like this since your first inception here and your behavior is not just seen by me. Be more level-headed.

B.I.B. said:

What you said is logical but look at Vietnam. After what the U.S. do to it, she still looks to the U.S. whenever possible. Have you ever watched those videos by Dr Shashi Tharoor on what the British did to the Indian continent from 17th century under the East India Company and later as a British colony. It was horrific and yet India still loves the West/Britain.
Futhermore, African countries, Botswana Cameroon Ghana Kenya Lesotho Malawi Mauritius Mozambique Namibia Nigeria Rwanda Seychelles Sierra Leone South Africa Swaziland Uganda United Republic of Tanzania Zambia are members of the "Commonwealth of Countries" or what was once the "British Commonwealth", thus giving it an inclination to lean towards the West as first choice

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Yeah but many of those pro westerners are brainwashed Christians anyway. As time and the internet opens up more and more people are starting to look at other nations and systems that are doing well (China for example) without their "Jesus".

B.I.B. said:

What you said is logical but look at Vietnam. After what the U.S. do to it, she still looks to the U.S. whenever possible. Have you ever watched those videos by Dr Shashi Tharoor on what the British did to the Indian continent from 17th century under the East India Company and later as a British colony. It was horrific and yet India still loves the West/Britain.
Futhermore, African countries, Botswana Cameroon Ghana Kenya Lesotho Malawi Mauritius Mozambique Namibia Nigeria Rwanda Seychelles Sierra Leone South Africa Swaziland Uganda United Republic of Tanzania Zambia are members of the "Commonwealth of Countries" or what was once the "British Commonwealth", thus giving it an inclination to lean towards the West as first choice

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Yeah but many of those pro westerners are brainwashed Christians anyway. As time and the internet opens up more and more people are starting to look at other nations and systems that are doing well (China for example) without their "Jesus".

Chish said:

belittling others who prefered to be different

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This is not a diversity competition neither a subjective matter where he can "prefer" whatever he wants

This is science. Fusion is more complex and more difficult to master than "J20" and "Mars landing" Fullstop. I dont care about his feelings neither about his wrong "opinions".

If he still wants to make his uniformed opinion heard then thats his fault and I dont have any reason to entertain him.

I explained to him multiple times why fusion is more difficult and he was still talking like a good nationalist about how great China had managed to do "J20" and "Mars landing"

In other more seriously moderated forums (for political section. Military is good) he would be banned after making these kindergarden claims and then continuing to support them even when counterposted by another member who explained him why his opinion was wrong

Chish said:

No one here have any inside info on China fusion research

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No one does, but we know from ITER that fusion is hard, etxremely hard. And China's fission reactor works with the same technology (design actually) as ITER, Tokamak

Chish said:

belittling others who prefered to be different

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This is not a diversity competition neither a subjective matter where he can "prefer" whatever he wants

This is science. Fusion is more complex and more difficult to master than "J20" and "Mars landing" Fullstop. I dont care about his feelings neither about his wrong "opinions".

If he still wants to make his uniformed opinion heard then thats his fault and I dont have any reason to entertain him.

I explained to him multiple times why fusion is more difficult and he was still talking like a good nationalist about how great China had managed to do "J20" and "Mars landing"

In other more seriously moderated forums (for political section. Military is good) he would be banned after making these kindergarden claims and then continuing to support them even when counterposted by another member who explained him why his opinion was wrong

Chish said:

No one here have any inside info on China fusion research

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No one does, but we know from ITER that fusion is hard, etxremely hard. And China's fission reactor works with the same technology (design actually) as ITER, Tokamak