What are you trying to accomplish with the message? That China shouldn’t be messed with? Do you really think that if the US’s goals with these tech bans is to sever China from western technology or impede its technological development they’ll decide they don’t want to mess with China after a wasteful retaliation? If it’s just a chest thumping exercise I’m not sure this stuff is really worth the cost. China’s leadership isn’t being chicken here. They’re just smart enough to know the difference between working towards real objectives and doing useless displays for fragile egos.
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Hendrik_2000
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They keep hitting you one after another and you are not doing anything about it? It has nothing to do with chest thumping It send a message that there is cost with messing with China yes that is the message Imagine what happened if China did not intervene in Korea They will invade Vietnam The message then was clear and loud they did receive the message NOT TO INVADE VIETNAM GET IT!
The present advisor of Xi are all graduate from western university like Liu he and HE IS CHICKEN!
IT IS TRADE WAR ANY AGGRESSION SHOULD BE RESPONDED FIRMLY!
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Yeah. If it doesn’t affect my objectives, or if retaliation doesn’t improve my situation, why would I distract myself with pointless maneuvers that actually make my situation worse? China was a weak country during Korea and Vietnam, and as a weak country your only option is to demonstrate your strength. China is not a weak country anymore. These bans hurt, but they’re mostly superficial to China’s fundamental situation. This is not the US threatening to invade. Only weak parties need to put up aggressive displays with for this level of harm. Is your objective for China to continue its technological development and improve its power or is your objective to win a game of chicken with the US? If it’s the former doing actions of the latter is more of a distraction than anything useful.
Meek countries try to threaten their way to dignity, self respect, standing, and power. Strong countries don’t need to make displays. It’s self evident in what they have and what they do for themselves. Your real strength is measured in material and practical outcomes. If your actions aren’t based on a calculation of those outcomes then you’re just demonstrating juvenile flailing (which is what Trump does).
The purpose of U.S. economic attacks against, including tech sanctions, is to bait and taunt China into retaliating. Certain advisors of the Trump administration believe that a compete decoupling is necessary to prevent China's rise, but the U.S. government itself does not have the power to force U.S. and other foreign companies to pull out of China. Ironically, only the CCP has that power (i.e. they can force out all foreign companies doing business in China, force Chinese companies to stop doing business with foreign countries).
Hence, China would be foolish to retaliate and turning on U.S. companies doing business in China because that is playing into the hands of Trump policy makers. Instead, China should further entangle itself economically with the U.S. and the West, making it even more difficult for the U.S. to attack China economically without shooting itself or allies in the foot. This is exactly what China is doing by opening up its financial system to U.S. banks and asset managers. The Trump Administration is trying to implement the same strategy from the Cold War, which is to isolate the enemy and apply maximum pressure externally so that the enemy implodes. The prerequisite of this strategy is a total economic decoupling and this this strategy can't work on China if China is too deeply entrenched with the West.
Also, these economic attacks by the U.S. aren't risk free, for example Trump's trade war has clearly backfired. If China retaliates, it could also very well backfire because its impossible to predict the long term consequences of such actions.
Hence, China would be foolish to retaliate and turning on U.S. companies doing business in China because that is playing into the hands of Trump policy makers. Instead, China should further entangle itself economically with the U.S. and the West, making it even more difficult for the U.S. to attack China economically without shooting itself or allies in the foot. This is exactly what China is doing by opening up its financial system to U.S. banks and asset managers. The Trump Administration is trying to implement the same strategy from the Cold War, which is to isolate the enemy and apply maximum pressure externally so that the enemy implodes. The prerequisite of this strategy is a total economic decoupling and this this strategy can't work on China if China is too deeply entrenched with the West.
Also, these economic attacks by the U.S. aren't risk free, for example Trump's trade war has clearly backfired. If China retaliates, it could also very well backfire because its impossible to predict the long term consequences of such actions.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
With or without retaliation decoupling is total failure because the west need China read my post in the economic section So why bother. The fact is no country can replace China as the factory of the world! Due to her extensive supply chain, educated and skill worker, with high work ethic, effective government and rule, first class infrastructure. No you have to retaliate and not give the other cheek like what they do now. See all the neocon now laughing to the bank they call China bluff and she didn't do anything
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
In politic everything is impression by not retaliating China give the impression as a weak country that any one can poke Bully never respect a meek boy they keep taunting and poke Bully only understand power!
Right. China should just demand the 737 MAX be introduced with that extra sensor to have triplex redundancy like Airbus has. Not accept the 737 MAX as is and then expect Boeing to introduce that in a year or two like EASA has done. China's sanctions seem kind of toothless, but they know where to hit. Just look at HSBC as an example. After they provided the US with ammunition to use against Huawei, they no longer can sell Chinese bonds like they used to. Ooops.
IF you want to use rare earths as a sanction tool, you have to identify every piece of rare earth sale (this can be done with a QR code system) which can be used to track its sale and where it ends up. Even if it is later sold down the track to a sanctioned US firm, everyone in that line of transactions will no longer be allowed to purchase Chinese rare earths. This has the added effect of forcing US firms to self police themselves to ensure that they don't do business with Pentagon aligned companies.