News on China's scientific and technological development.

gelgoog said:

It takes a minimum of 2 years to build a fab. Like one year, if you are really quick, to construct the building and another year to install and bootstrap the machine tools. Huawei could simply take an existing building to speed it up. I think Globalfoundries exited a deal they had in Chengdu to build a fab there and took their machines out. But the building is there, basically brand new, and I would not be surprised if some trained staff was there as well. I don't know if anyone has acquired it yet.
The problem is the machine tools, the materials, and the process. SMEE supposedly won't have an immersion DUV litography tool until a year or two from now. Then there's process and materials. Even if Huawei licensed the process from SMIC or one of the other Chinese companies they would need time to adapt it to the new tools and production flow. So I think 3 years in the best case is a more viable estimate.

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Insider info: the stuff and tech they brought there was not new, irrc that was one of the main reasons the provincial money did not come down, and the cooperation was stopped. The main crew left GF after that and join another Chinese company that is starting out in Hangzhou/Shanghai.

Hendrik_2000 said:

Why not they did all over internet. I guess you never read comment on youtube eh? Or watch China basher on youtube Here is one

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that youtube guy is doing it for the $$$ mostly. but honestly how many white american you know interest argue with you on this forum, let alone this thread. most caucasian american got plenty others things to do or other forums to go to then spend times on this thread.

s002wjh said:

that youtube guy is doing it for the $$$ mostly. but honestly how many white american you know interest argue with you on this forum, let alone this thread. most caucasian american got plenty others things to do or other forums to go to then spend times on this thread.

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yeah tell that to trumpies ! and why do you think the present administration try to strangle China if not to curry the base In fact they are obsessed with China go to the their meeting Gyna gyna gyna

Huawei aims to survive the market through 5 tech domains

He says the company's current goal is to survive this difficult period. As 5G is rolled out at scale worldwide, Huawei believes connectivity, cloud, AI, computing, and industrial applications have all come together to create unprecedented opportunities for the information and communications technology (ICT) sector. But how to keep the data safe is a big concern across the world.

s002wjh said:

and your prove that he is Not Chinese american, you think white american really come on this forum argue with you on this thread lol. most wont bother sinodefence forum let alone this thread. the only one curious are asians.

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They do come here... and when they find out they don't control the narrative, unsurprisingly they leave. David Axe even wrote an article about how Chinese fanboys were giving away Chinese secrets by what they post on the internet.

solarz said:

I can only speak for myself. I acquired Canadian citizenship when my parents became Canadian citizens. I did not swear any oaths, nor did I ever renounce my Chinese identity. Now you may say that my parents did it for me, but I would respectfully disagree with the assertion that anyone but myself can make that decision for me.

Now the reality is, I grew up in Canada. I presently have neither the opportunity nor the desire (at least for now) to move my life and my family to China. The way I see it, if there's one thing China doesn't lack, it's people. I see no benefit to me going to China to compete with millions of other software developers for a job.

Now as a Chinese, I fully support China's rise, and I am happy to see the progress it has made over the years. However, even as a Canadian, I do not see any reason for Canada to antagonize China for the benefit of the US. On the contrary, even looking at things from a Canadian national interest point of view, I see much more benefit in better China-Canada relations than the opposite. The Meng Wanzhou fiasco is the worst political mistake Justin Trudeau has ever made, and I am speaking as someone who would vote Liberal anyway, because the alternatives are just worse.

To put it simply, Canada is my home, but China is my nation.

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Appreciate that and I believe you full-hearted. It all goes back to individual vs. generalization. It is like the bell curve or any thing related to distribution theory which includes human society, judging individual based on generalization could be wrong or unfair, but dismissing the overall picture just because it doesn't fit some individual case would be even more wrong.

P.S. I did not take any oath either as I was born in China. I think first the paper, then the oath are all surface reflection of the bottom issue but the bottom issue does NOT necessarily need an oath though. The bottom issue is the materialistic personal interest. People do according to that. Don't you agree? You may be an exception, or maybe you just have not faced that tough question yet, or maybe you will be lucky that you will never be forced to answer that question. But the issue remains and the question, this is all what I was trying to convey, not the reflections of the issue (paper or oath).

It is just another example of the popular question "when your mother (birth place, China) and your wife (your future life) fall in the water, you can only save one, which one do you choose?" I am a Chinese (mother side), how do you expect me to think? Or what will you do if you are in this position.

s002wjh said:

oh come on there is no point for him to lie, there are plenty oversea chinese that dont like Xijinping, or the current type government

for example, read the comment in this video youll find alot chinese anti-xijinping

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so? what is the point? "Chinese" vistors to Youtube are mostly oversea Chinese which include people from Taiwan who don't even acknowledge being Chinese. Do you count these "Chinese, not Chinese" split-personality as a lot "Chinese" when their posts fit the narrative? So when they are anti-Xijinping, they are Chinese, when they call for "independence" they are NOT Chinese any more?

The same problem goes to those "Chinese" of yours, the Honk Kongers who rioted for "Independence". They have Chinese (HK) passport but reject being Chinese. So they are and are NOT, and one can pick which ever identity at ones convenience?

mmm I thought there were just tens of thous foreign engineers,like 30k, but it says 100k


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company started with a strategy of emulating products of competitors and serving the local market, but technology leadership was the long-term objective as resources were added.

Recognizing that research resources were limited in China, the company recruited talented engineers globally, left them in place and integrated them in its product development programs. Huawei now has
more than 100,000 engineers globally.

I think I am partially responsible of getting off-topic regarding "the intention and identity". For that I apologize.

I know I have just put two posts again, so I will not ask anyone not to counter these two posts since that would be unfair as "I have the last words then shut others up". I do promise that I myself will not continue any further regardless.

Let's get back on topic "China's Sci and Tech"

Sleepyjam said:

There are plenty of anti Chinese ”Chinese“ like the FLG or TI. They have this slave mentality where they play into the stereotype of the weak and submissive asian brainwashed into worshipping the west. Gadgetfool is probably one of them, deep down it comes from self hatred.

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Heck there are many hanjian/bananas/self hating chinese traitors overseas. Many in small country like singapore itself that grows up reading western propaganda. It's not that surprising some are anti China/ Trump loving weirdos