HI Hendrik_2000,
Exciting times ahead, thanks WTAN, keep us posted, now we wait for the SMIC N+2, I think this one needed an EUVL or the SMEE 28nm lithograph can handle it?
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Exciting times ahead, thanks WTAN, keep us posted, now we wait for the SMIC N+2, I think this one needed an EUVL or the SMEE 28nm lithograph can handle it?
Hendrik_2000
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Well this is not the first time China has to face technical embargo and every time they beat it from CNC machine, Satellite, server chips, space exploration. etc
Compare to yester years China technical base and manpower has improved considerably. So have faith like they say What does not kill you will only strengthen you. so don't listen to doubter, self depreciating individual or skeptic.
It is too late to hobble china's progress the train has left the station!
Go by recent Covid 19 experience they did the impossibility as long as China stay united!
China should do a couple of things. Stall Boeing's certification of the 737 MAX in China until they make the design safe enough, reduce purchases of Boeing airplanes (most of the Chinese airlines are state owned), delay and cancel purchases of aircraft from Boeing (every other airline is doing it because the travel market is dead), sue Boeing for losses for grounded aircraft and non-available aircraft. At the same time the Chinese need to speed up the initiative to make 100% Chinese version of the COMAC 919 and fully fund the COMAC 929 and engine initiatives. China needs medium and large commercial aircraft engines. Unfortunately this was not done before Ukraine got into the claws of the US, otherwise the Chinese could have easily got 1980s vintage engines for all sectors from Lotarev and Progress.
Hi Hendrik_2000,
I dont want to generalized, but its in our character, eat bitterness, when I was young and had encounter a lot of discrimination , my father always told me to endure it and take it as challenge to improve myself, we were taught not to hate but be a contributor to society that reject us.
You still don't get the difference between 51 country and one : )
In Europe over the millennials there was hundreds of different legal/political/economical systems, competing with each other, and it happens even today, the winner methods copied over by other countries .
Meanwhile in China there always been only one way, if it failed then it failed for whole china, if it succeeded then it succeeded for whole china- problem is the search for a good method is always trial and error, as you can see the past 300 years of China history - the leaders of China had around 10-20% success rate regards of macro strategies.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
I don't know if China or Europe is more diverse and I really don't care but the assumption that diversity is inherently good is extremely flawed. People do not compare and compete methods until the winning method takes over; people stick doggedly to their ways and battle each other insisting that their way is best even when it's not. For example, India has many religions and parties and castes and whatevers and they all hate each other. It detracts from unity. On the other hand, China is a one party system, unified in its goals and that actually allows people to walk away from their egos to accept other views and co-develop an evolving system with world-leading results. This dynamic system can actually trouble-shoot and adapt fluidly because all its members are on the same team and share the same agenda. A system of diverse parties and beliefs is always at each others necks thinking of ways to attack each other and defend oneself like the democratic and republican parties in the US. So while the success of a one-party system depends on that one party, the success of a multiparty system depends on getting the few smart ideas through the dump-yard of bad ones, and wrestling them through everyone's egos. A fragmented society like that is akin to a hydra with all the heads fighting for control and the one smart one usually getting mashed to obscurity in the mosh-pit. With all its diversity, Europe cannot compete with China today whether it be scale or growth or even crisis handling. What does that diversity do? It creates bickering and hinders integration while China can pull itself together harnessing the power of its masses.
I'm sure you cannot substantiate this because it's total nonsense to put numbers on something like this. Nonetheless, China had faltered in an era, but that era is gone and China is still a one-party country. The last thing China needs is to be fragmented by diversity like Europe.
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Neither Europe is as diverse as it used to be, with EU regulations omnipresent nearly everywhere, nor is China as uniform as some people think. The Chinese government allows experimentation at the local level and then applies relevant policies on a national level.
solarz
Brigadier
What nonsense. Europe over the millenia followed the same set of feudal legal and political system. The rise of capitalism pretty much overrode any national boundary, making it a pan-European economic system.
China today works through experimentation. All policies, before being implemented on a large scale, are first implemented on villages and towns, and evaluated according to their merits. There are literally hundreds of such experiments every year, everything ranging from education curriculum to economic policy. In contrast, look at what the Western world does: endless debates over the same old topic, with baby steps in one direction followed by two steps backward in the other direction once the incumbent party loses an election.
“China’s had active industrial policy around semiconductors for almost forty years, as long as semiconductors have been around, and they just can’t make it happen because it’s so difficult to do. It’s a very complex ecosystem, so you can’t go out and replicate all of that.”
LOL no problems guys, don't listen to defeatist old me. GYNA #1 full speed ahead.
LOL no problems guys, don't listen to defeatist old me. GYNA #1 full speed ahead.