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Wangxi

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free_6ix9ine said:
Overhead? Its another rumor. I'm sure there are China Hawks which are pushing for something like this. Will it happen? Maybe maybe not. China should consider dumping US Bonds or Banning US dollars or Full on military war with the US.
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CarlZha predicted for SMIC in August

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1297007383911075840
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1297010902978269186
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1302128285153857543
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1302131197603053575

And he was right

So i trust him when he says that
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1305340137258139650

Ironically the most dangerous moment will be if Trump loses (because he will have nothing to lose) and Biden wins, people like Pompeo, Matthew Pottinger and Peter Navarro will push him to declare an all-out tech war on China, let's not forget that even if Trump loses, he will have to stay another 3 months until January during the transition period, this transition period will be the most dangerous.

On the contrary, if he wins, he will think of the benefit of phase 2 of the deal.
 
free_6ix9ine

free_6ix9ine

Junior Member
Registered Member
Wangxi said:
CarlZha predicted for SMIC in August

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1297007383911075840
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1297010902978269186
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1302128285153857543
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1302131197603053575

And he was right

So i trust him when he says that
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1305340137258139650

Ironically the most dangerous moment will be if Trump loses (because he will have nothing to lose) and Biden wins, people like Pompeo, Matthew Pottinger and Peter Navarro will push him to declare an all-out tech war on China, let's not forget that even if Trump loses, he will have to stay another 3 months until January during the transition period, this transition period will be the most dangerous.

On the contrary, if he wins, he will think of the benefit of phase 2 of the deal.
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Not saying he is lying or not credible. Sure there are lots of policy ideas thrown around within the admin. didn't they consider cutting off us dollar access as well or invalidating us debt? It hasn't happened yet, because Kudlow recognized that it was a stupid idea.
 
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Skywatcher

Captain
Wangxi said:
CarlZha predicted for SMIC in August

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1297007383911075840
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1297010902978269186
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1302128285153857543
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1302131197603053575

And he was right

So i trust him when he says that
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1305340137258139650

Ironically the most dangerous moment will be if Trump loses (because he will have nothing to lose) and Biden wins, people like Pompeo, Matthew Pottinger and Peter Navarro will push him to declare an all-out tech war on China, let's not forget that even if Trump loses, he will have to stay another 3 months until January during the transition period, this transition period will be the most dangerous.

On the contrary, if he wins, he will think of the benefit of phase 2 of the deal.
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At this point, Pottinger must be in the pay of Naura and SMEE.
 
Quickie

Quickie

Colonel
latenlazy said:
As I’ve mentioned before, transistor density alone is not the most important metric. Power efficiency and transistor switching speeds are a big part of performance gain for smaller nodes. That’s why feature sizes, independent of how closely you can pack transistors, is still such a big deal. In fact features sizes are small enough now where density is at best a secondary performance determinant, since you’re talking about minor differences in package sizes for the same transistor counts between a more densely packed solution and a less densely packed one.
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I have gone along this line of reasoning quite a few posts ago.

It seems like quite a few people still buy into the hoo-ha of Intel 10 nm being superior to the 7nm of other manufacturers. I think there is a chart posted here somewhere showing that the Intel 10 nm is definitely less power efficient than the 7 nm when compared strictly on transistor count.

localizer said:
Intel’s 14nm node (comparable to TSMC 10nm) and architectures demonstrates all of those. It’s as good it’s gonna get with DUV.
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That may have to do with the better design of the CPU architecture making it more efficient (speed wise) doing certain tasks, but not necessary on other tasks as well.

Transistor to transistor, a 14nm node will definitely consume more power than a 10 nm node.
 
localizer

localizer

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Registered Member
Quickie said:
I have gone along this line of reasoning quite a few posts ago.

It seems like quite a few people still buy into the hoo-ha of Intel 10 nm being superior to the 7nm of other manufacturers. I think there is a chart posted here somewhere showing that the Intel 10 nm is definitely less power efficient than the 7 nm when compared strictly on transistor count.



That may have to do with the better design of the CPU architecture making it more efficient (speed wise) doing certain tasks, but not necessary on other tasks as well.

Transistor to transistor, a 14nm node will definitely consume more power than a 10 nm node.
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I don't believe the 10nm/7nm comparison since Zen 7nm is obviously better than Intel 10/14nm. Also, Intel's 10nm production is limited.

But Intel's 14nm is definitely comparable to 10nm TSMC/Samsung
 
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