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World's fastest rail train being tested.


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Martian

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China owns 940 high-speed railway patents

Martian or Assasin, do you guys happen to know where the trains were built or designed by?

China's high-speed rail lines are able to achieve a world-record average speed of 328 km/h because she developed and "owns 940 high-speed railway patents."

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"Fast train to open a year ahead of schedule
By Xin Dingding (China Daily)
Updated: 2010-03-15 07:19

Beijing: The highly anticipated Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway will begin operation next year, and is expected to cut travel time to four hours, railway officials said.

The high-speed railway between China's two most important metropolises was scheduled to open in 2012 but will now open one year ahead of time, said Zheng Jian, chief planner with the Ministry of Railways.

Wang Zhiguo, vice-minister of railways, said that it would be a four-hour journey from Beijing to Shanghai, and only three hours from Beijing to Nanjing, capital of East China's Jiangsu province.

At present, it takes about 10 hours to travel from Beijing to Shanghai and Nanjing by train.

A new-generation bullet train that will travel up to 380 kilometers per hour (kph) is now under development for the high-speed rail link.

It will be rigorously tested this year, and engineers want the train to run at a top speed of 420 kph to guarantee a safe operational speed of 380 kph, Huang Qiang, chief researcher with the China Academy of Railway Sciences told the Beijing News.

Vice-Minister Wang Zhiguo said it was expected that high-speed trains would one day take passengers from Beijing to most capital cities within eight hours, except for Haikou, Urumqi, Lhasa and Taipei.

It is expected that an 110,000-km railway network will be completed by 2012, including 13,000 km of high-speed rail, he said.

China already has 6,552 km of rail track in operation - the longest amount of high-speed rail track in the world.

The ministry wants to export China's high-speed railway technology to North America, Europe and Latin America.

Wang said State-owned Chinese companies are already building high-speed lines in Turkey and Venezuela.

Many countries, including the United States, Russia, Brazil and Saudi Arabia, have also expressed interest.

"China is willing to share its mature and advanced technology with other countries to promote development of the world's high-speed railways," he said.

The ministry has signed cooperation memos with California in the United States, as well as Russia and Brazil.

"We are organizing relevant companies to participate in bidding for US high-speed railways and prepare for bidding on a line in Brazil linking Rio de Janeiro with Sao Paulo," the vice-minister said.

The ministry introduced high-speed train technologies from France, Germany and Japan, while at the same time made its own innovations. It now owns 940 patents concerning high-speed railways, the ministry's chief engineer He Huawu said.

At present, at least 10,000 km of high-speed rail line is under construction in China. About 3,676 km of new track for running trains at speeds up to 350 kph have already been laid and put into operation. Another 2,876 km of old tracks have been upgraded to run trains of 200 to 250 kph.

Ultimately, China plans to construct a 120,000-km railway network, including 50,000-km of high-speed rail track, by 2020."


Notice the orange juice and upright cigarette tests on China's 350 kph high-speed train.

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Martian

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American confirmation that "Chinese rail companies now have 940 registered patents"

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"High Speed Rail on Track to Reap Hefty Funds, But Faces Hurdles
By Josie Garthwaite Jun. 21, 2010, 3:30pm PDT

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A “palpable excitement” — that’s how the investigative arm of Congress describes the aura created by the allocation of federal funds for new high speed rail service in the U.S under last year’s Recovery Act. But this buzz and an unprecedented gush of federal investment will carry efforts to establish intercity passenger rail service only so far.

The Government Accountability Office, or GAO, notes in a new report that the success of this “difficult, multiyear effort” will hinge on a host of other factors, including the availability of state and federal funds “to build and operate systems that go far beyond the funds provided by the Recovery Act,” the ability of states to work together on interstate lines, and the cooperation of private railroads.

The challenge of building infrastructure across state lines has cropped up for greentech efforts beyond the transportation sector. For example, despite widespread recognition that the U.S. power grid is overdue for an upgrade, transmission lines are in many cases being built at a slow pace partly because of issues with conflicting state regulations.

According to the GAO, 37 states and the District of Columbia submitted 259 applications requesting a total of around $57 billion under the $8 billion in stimulus funds made available for new passenger rail corridors or improvements to existing rail service. Earlier this year the Federal Railroad Administration announced plans to award the $8 billion to 62 projects in 23 states, plus the District of Columbia.
In total, federal appropriations for high-speed intercity passenger rail has grown to $10.5 billion for the 2010 fiscal year, up from $120 million in the two previous fiscal years combined, according to the GAO report.

Administering these programs will require the FRA to undergo a massive transformation, writes the GAO, shifting from an organization focused primarily on safety to an entity “that can make multibillion dollar investment choices while simultaneously carrying out its safety mission.”

It’s not just states that have perked up at the prospect of federal funds for these transportation projects. The GAO also predicts that federal funds may provide a “catalyst” for many high-speed passenger rail projects and notes that, ”Passenger rail operators and suppliers from around the world are showing interest in making and operating high speed passenger trains for a possible emerging U.S. market.” (Software giants like IBM and Accenture are among the companies that could find opportunities in that market, helping to automate system management to improve efficiency.)

The GAO looked to state passenger rail projects for lessons that can be applied to upcoming initiatives, but when it comes to overseas players in the high-speed rail space, China (slated to spend an estimated $300 billion to build out a 75,000-mile high-speed rail network by 2020) is becoming the 800-pound gorilla. According to a recent report from the Center for American Progress, Chinese rail companies now have 940 registered patents, and in just over a decade it has made the “move from being an importer of high-speed rail technology and operational know-how to being an exporter.”

Photo courtesy IBM"

[Note: Thank you to "gpit" for finding the newslink.]
 
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AssassinsMace

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Martian or Assasin, do you guys happen to know where the trains were built or designed by?

Depends on who you ask. This train I posted is built in China is supposedly a joint venture between China and Bombardier. But others want to claim it's full of Japanese train technology. An AP article I read of the Governator just taking a ride on CHR said it was more based on European HSR technology than Japanese. All say China stole it but China has hired American experts to examine Chinese HSR to check for intellectual property infractions and clear it for export.
 

Martian

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Beijing-Wuhan HSR to open in 2011

Here are pictures of the current construction on the Beijing-Wuhan HSR. When the Beijing-Wuhan HSR is completed, it will complement the Wuhan-Guangzhou HSR and allow a passenger to travel from northern Beijing to southern Guangzhou via HSR. The Beijing-Wuhan HSR is supposed to open in 2011.

However, it is possible that the Beijing-Guangzhou HSR may not open until 2012. I have lost most of my ability to read Mandarin. I cannot independently check on the latest information available on Chinese websites to ascertain whether the timetable has been accelerated from 2012 to 2011.

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China HSR map

Pictures of the construction on the Beijing-Wuhan HSR to open in 2011:

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"Beijing-Guangzhou high-speed railway to open in 2012
10:19, December 30, 2009

Reporters learned from railway authorities that the Beijing-Shijiazhuang and Shijiazhuang-Wuhan high-speed railways are currently under intense construction and a trip from Beijing to Guangzhou by train will only take 8 hours in 2012.

The Wuhan-Guangzhou high-speed railway that went under construction from June 2005 is an important part of the Beijing-Guangzhou high-speed railway. It runs through Hubei, Hunan and Guangdong provinces, totaling about 1,068 kilometers. The opening of the Wuhan-Guangzhou high-speed railway reduces the travel time between the 2 cities to 3 hours from the original 10 hours.

According to the Wuhan Railway Bureau, the travel time between Beijing and Guangzhou has reduced to 21 hours from over 90 hours in the past, after passenger train speeds were increased several times. Following the opening of the Wuhan-Guangzhou high-speed railway and the construction of other high-speed railways in progress, the Beijing-Guangzhou high-speed railway will serve as a main artery running through China from north to south in the future, and the trip from Beijing to Guangzhou will only take 8 hours. An "8-hour transport circle" that China is striving to build will gradually become a reality.

Zhang Shuguang, head of the Transportation Department of the Ministry of Railways, said that China will form a 1-8 hour transport circle, which has Beijing at its center and allows travel between Beijing and most provincial capitals in 1-8 hours. China will also build a transport circle that allows travel between central cities, such as Shanghai, Zhengzhou and Wuhan, and their surrounding cities in half an hour to 1 hour. China's high-speed passenger transport network connects all provincial capitals and large cities with a population of over 500,000, and covers 90 percent of the population nationwide. It will significantly shorten the inter-city distances.

By People's Daily Online"

[Note: Thank you to "Scion" for the pictures and the update on the 2011 opening date.]
 
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Martian

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China's new world-speediest 380 km/h trains are ready

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"China rolls out its own 380
June 2, 2010 – 8:25 am, by Ben Sandilands

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The first carriage for the first of 100 China 380A trains (Xinhau)

China has revealed the first of its 380A high speed trains at a ceremony at a factory in Changchun.

It will be followed by another 99 sets in coming months for use on the soon to be completed Beijing-Shanghai high speed rail line which opens in 2011.

This report and others show that the name came not from a play on the Airbus A380 moniker but the fact that the trains have a top operational speed of 380 kmh, exceeding by 30 kmh the top speed of the now, second tier 350A trains that were launched into service in 2008.

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Good morning Toulouse, from Changchun (Xinhau)

The great circle distance from Beijing Capital airport (PEK) to Shanghai Pudong (PVG) is 1098 kilometres, and while neither jets nor the soon to begin HS rail link will cover as short a distance in the real world, it is obvious that the train between China’s capital and its largest city will be far preferable in space, comfort, data connectivity, convenience and total trip time for many of those who now fly between them.

Meanwhile, in Australia ……..look on in shame. We can’t even get two of the world’s smallest metropolitan railways to work effectively."

(Note: Thank you to "marchpole" for finding this story.)
 

Martian

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Test of China's new 380A with an expected average speed of 380 kph (e.g. km per hour)

"This photo was taken at Huhang PDL on September 14. It shows a CRH380A test run at a station."

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Test of China's new 380A with an overall expected average speed of 380 kph (e.g. km per hour).

[Note: Thank you to AssassinsMace for original posted picture (see post #281) and "greenlion" for the posted information.]
 

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To Martian>
As someone who is interested in CHR,i appreciate your recent posts.Cheers !

I guess China will surely win the contract for California which should help them with more foreign deals. The UK is also planning HSR but may do this by themselves.But if the price is right ! who knows?

*Can someone tell me if there is a way for me to increase my quota ?
I notice the middle one doesn't enlarge well here ,you can find it here>
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