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AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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Equation said:
Exactly. Now where are all my China doubters, doomsayers and naysayers at?
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Just look at the last paragraph of the article. It already believes the US will be more moral with artificial intelligence than China. Well if they think they can control artificial intelligence then the technology is not anywhere near anything they fear it under the Chinese. I love the irony. They see artificial intelligence as in science-fiction terms yet they're more moral because they think they can control it. Yet the China they see that wants to control everything is suspicious because they think China will unleash it.
 
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taxiya

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Equation said:
Exactly. Now where are all my China doubters, doomsayers and naysayers at?
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In "our" naysayers eyes, although China's papers on deep learning has surpassed, "we" have better qualities. Even China proves some day to surpass "our" qualities, "we" will still remain forever to be the first one to start the research. If some day China start something new, "we" will simply turn "our" heads away and demand evidences that "we" will refuse to look at. ...... So on and so forth, etc. etc.
 
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taxiya

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AssassinsMace said:
Just look at the last paragraph of the article. It already believes the US will be more moral with artificial intelligence than China. Well if they think they can control artificial intelligence then the technology is not anywhere near anything they fear it under the Chinese. I love the irony. They see artificial intelligence as in science-fiction terms yet they're more moral because they think they can control it. Yet the China they see that wants to control everything is suspicious because they think China will unleash it.
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Same noise as the recent warm-upped talks about rules on UCAVs in the other side of the ocean.
 
Hendrik_2000

Hendrik_2000

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This is what China need. China is arid place and need to conserve water. An excellent video about Singapore effort to be water independent. Click the link


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Singapore's NEWater
Broadcast on October 13, 2016

It is a little known fact that Singapore has had a long battle in delivering sufficient water to its citizens. Using state of the art technology, the country is deeply committed to achieving its goal of an independent water supply. One such innovation is NEWater, which uses wastewater from homes and factories and is transformed into water pure enough to drink. It already accounts for 30% of the water used and there are hopes that by 2060, this figure will rise to 55%. In this episode of Asia Insight, we follow Singapore's efforts to save precious water and secure an independent domestic water supply.

Available until October 27, 2016
 
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This is interesting since I've seen a number of stories that say China is behind in artificial intelligence research.
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Regardless of who is researching AI there are huge moral and ethical questions that will, not if, come up down the road that all humankind has to face. Same as with cloning and "hand of god" type weapons from drones to lasers.
 
SamuraiBlue

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It looks as if a lot of people are misunderstanding what AIs are. They are basically an expert system going through algorithm process calculating probabilities of a specific field they had been programed developing probability scenarios based on past data.
They can not expand and make deductions that are not included within the algorithm and do not have any ways to expand those parameters. They are excellent in doing diagnostics of complex machinery including humans or flying a plane but can not really think, only come up with solutions of past examples and data and not anything new on their own.

It will take a lot more for AI to become self aware to truly become "Artificial Intelligence"
 
solarz

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SamuraiBlue said:
It looks as if a lot of people are misunderstanding what AIs are. They are basically an expert system going through algorithm process calculating probabilities of a specific field they had been programed developing probability scenarios based on past data.
They can not expand and make deductions that are not included within the algorithm and do not have any ways to expand those parameters. They are excellent in doing diagnostics of complex machinery including humans or flying a plane but can not really think, only come up with solutions of past examples and data and not anything new on their own.

It will take a lot more for AI to become self aware to truly become "Artificial Intelligence"
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I guess you can count Stephen Hawkings among the people "misunderstanding" AI.:rolleyes:

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AI is basically about machine learning. It doesn't matter if you're teaching an AI to play chess or to recognizes faces, the algorithm is the same.

The strength and danger of AI is precisely the fact that AI are not bound by its initial programming parameters. The entire point of AI is to anticipate scenarios that programmers did not.

The greatest danger of AI is what is called the "Singularity", the moment when AI reaches sufficient sophistication to create a better version of itself, at which point it can then create an exponential growth in intelligence. Remember that it doesn't matter what you're trying to teach an AI to do, the underlying algorithm is the same. So theoretically, you could teach an AI to program an AI.

This is why scientists like Stephen Hawkings are calling for legislations regarding AI.
 
SamuraiBlue

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solarz said:
I guess you can count Stephen Hawkings among the people "misunderstanding" AI.:rolleyes:

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AI is basically about machine learning. It doesn't matter if you're teaching an AI to play chess or to recognizes faces, the algorithm is the same.

The strength and danger of AI is precisely the fact that AI are not bound by its initial programming parameters. The entire point of AI is to anticipate scenarios that programmers did not.

The greatest danger of AI is what is called the "Singularity", the moment when AI reaches sufficient sophistication to create a better version of itself, at which point it can then create an exponential growth in intelligence. Remember that it doesn't matter what you're trying to teach an AI to do, the underlying algorithm is the same. So theoretically, you could teach an AI to program an AI.

This is why scientists like Stephen Hawkings are calling for legislations regarding AI.
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Aughhhhh, we organic intelligence haven't cracked the secret of anticipating the unknown so how can we create an algorithm that can?
AI can't make a better AI if they could that would be call self awareness something that will still take a lot more time, research and some Eureka moments to reach.They can refine programs for better efficiency but that does not mean they can create something new.
AI can only anticipate things that had happened in the past stored within their database which is within their parameters they can not anticipate that completely new and had not happened before.　
 
manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

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SamuraiBlue said:
It looks as if a lot of people are misunderstanding what AIs are. They are basically an expert system going through algorithm process calculating probabilities of a specific field they had been programed developing probability scenarios based on past data.
They can not expand and make deductions that are not included within the algorithm and do not have any ways to expand those parameters. They are excellent in doing diagnostics of complex machinery including humans or flying a plane but can not really think, only come up with solutions of past examples and data and not anything new on their own.

It will take a lot more for AI to become self aware to truly become "Artificial Intelligence"
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I think there is a misunderstanding here as well. Did you misunderstand when the mod told you to not post anywhere except in military thread?
 
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