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CMP

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Even after all this time westoids still say China can't innovate even though they are involved in the leading trends of many fields. Where does this ignorance even stem from?

If you point out any patent, TikTok, 6G or whatever they say it's not an innovation but just an improvement. But that's really arbitrary because technically most weapons used today are just improvements over the original gun or rocket. If anything they are admitting they are just living off creating a very basic thing of the past with no improvement. Then how is that any different from late Qing who never bothered to improve it's guns or boats?

Not to mention what actual innovations have the west created today this year? Especially Europe which is supposed to be more pure.
They're almost all just delusional NPCs. Waste your time listening to a single word they say, or waste your time trying to contradict them.
 

sunnymaxi

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This is the kind of times when Chinese govt needs to step up and offer money for the AI engineers to stay in China but at a different firm.
This news first appeared last year, ''Microsoft China'' wanted to relocate Ai researchers in Canada/USA but as per the local source Permission denied by the Local government..

and right now China has very big Ai industry with massive demand of talent so these researchers could easily hire by any local Ai company with good salary package.
 

CMP

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This news first appeared last year, ''Microsoft China'' wanted to relocate Ai researchers in Canada/USA but as per the local source Permission denied by the Local government..

and right now China has very big Ai industry with massive demand of talent so these researchers could easily hire by any local Ai company with good salary package.
This sounds too good to be true. Can you post some evidence showing that Microsoft's attempt to plunder China's human resources got shut down? I was not aware the local government could shut something like this down. Can't Microsoft just give those employees new job offers in the US with green card sponsorship? How can the Chinese government block those employees from simply flying to the US?
 

sunnymaxi

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This sounds too good to be true. Can you post some evidence showing that Microsoft's attempt to plunder China's human resources got shut down? I was not aware the local government could shut something like this down. Can't Microsoft just give those employees new job offers in the US with green card sponsorship? How can the Chinese government block those employees from simply flying to the US?
if there is any Link available i would love to share on this forum .. but i have heard this news from my source. after tech war a lot things have changed. its all about National security.. Chinese government have full power and authority to stop any deal.

this news first appeared in 2023. but Microsoft failed to relocate all those researchers. it means something happened.

see this .. June 10, 2023
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Microsoft failed in 2023..

After this article was first published, Microsoft said: “the number reported is not accurate. There is no ‘so-called Vancouver Plan.’”

it means they are trying again in 2024 .. lol
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this is from above link ..

“Emigration is not that appealing to many Microsoft people in China,” a Beijing-based employee told Rest of World, after declining an offer to relocate to Vancouver. “If you deduct taxes, every place except Seattle may come with a pay cut compared to Beijing. The living quality would really suffer.”

even Chinese researchers don't want to leave home country because of obvious reasons..
 

CMP

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if there is any Link available i would love to share on this forum .. but i have heard this news from my source. after tech war a lot things have changed. its all about National security.. Chinese government have full power and authority to stop any deal.

this news first appeared in 2023. but Microsoft failed to relocate all those researchers. it means something happened.

see this .. June 10, 2023
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Microsoft failed in 2023 but seems like. they are trying again.
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this is from above link ..

“Emigration is not that appealing to many Microsoft people in China,” a Beijing-based employee told Rest of World, after declining an offer to relocate to Vancouver. “If you deduct taxes, every place except Seattle may come with a pay cut compared to Beijing. The living quality would really suffer.”

even Chinese researchers don't want to leave home country because of obvious reasons..
Good. Fuck Microsoft and fuck their attempts to plunder Chinese human resources.
 

siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
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if there is any Link available i would love to share on this forum .. but i have heard this news from my source. after tech war a lot things have changed. its all about National security.. Chinese government have full power and authority to stop any deal.

this news first appeared in 2023. but Microsoft failed to relocate all those researchers. it means something happened.

see this .. June 10, 2023
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Microsoft failed in 2023..

After this article was first published, Microsoft said: “the number reported is not accurate. There is no ‘so-called Vancouver Plan.’”

it means they are trying again in 2024 .. lol
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this is from above link ..

“Emigration is not that appealing to many Microsoft people in China,” a Beijing-based employee told Rest of World, after declining an offer to relocate to Vancouver. “If you deduct taxes, every place except Seattle may come with a pay cut compared to Beijing. The living quality would really suffer.”

even Chinese researchers don't want to leave home country because of obvious reasons..

OMG they don’t want to get shot at or mugged? Color me surprised.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
Good. Fuck Microsoft and fuck their attempts to plunder Chinese human resources.
So far it had been a win-win relationship between Microsoft and China.

Microsoft was training top-notch talent for China which later produced their own start-ups or poached by Chinese AI companies, and as a return Microsoft was using that talent to further enchance its global competitiveness. All parties were happy with this arrangement

This move by Microsoft to move it's Chinese talent to the US is breaking this arrangement. As a result, the Chinese gov should intervene to even the board.

It doesn't have to be public. Just getting the personal info of the employees and distributing it to the recruiter agencies or recruiting departments of major Chinese AI companies would let the invisible hand of the market do it's job and poach them from Microsoft.

You don't have to be all sticks or using hard methods. Soft methods also work.
 
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