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Beihuxiang

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Don't know where to find the actual plan document, if anybody knows?

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China unveiled a plan on Wednesday that aims to promote the culture of traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) among the public.

The plan, jointly issued by eight government organs, outlines 12 tasks in the promotion of TCM culture, including strengthening the protection and conservation of TCM classics and establishing a national digital TCM museum.

It also calls for launching various forms of activities to boost TCM culture among students and promote diversified products to facilitate TCM cultural exchanges with other countries.

A total of 50 national-level venues for experiencing TCM culture will be established, according to the plan.
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luosifen

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Good TCM practitioners are much harder to train than Western medicine counterparts. My father is one, every patient needs to have a custom diagnosis and treatment plan tailored to correcting the root causes of illness and can take a long time to achieve, whereas the Western system favours quick immediate results that treat symptoms but might leave the root cause unsolved. I can expand on this more later if need be.
 

Beihuxiang

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Good TCM practitioners are much harder to train than Western medicine counterparts. My father is one, every patient needs to have a custom diagnosis and treatment plan tailored to correcting the root causes of illness and can take a long time to achieve, whereas the Western system favours quick immediate results that treat symptoms but might leave the root cause unsolved. I can expand on this more later if need be.
Humor me for a minute, pretend I am an American internal medicine doctor trained in evidence-based medicine and I have a patient with methamphetamine induced chronic heart failure.

I have completed 4 years of undergraduate education, 4 years of medical school, and a 3 year residency, having worked no more than the ACGME mandated maximum of 80 hours a week.

There are guidelines I as a physician must follow for treatment because scientific data supports putting everyone with the diagnosis of chronic heart failure on these medications to reduce their risk of early death. To summarize, these medications lower the amount of work the heart has to do because there isn't any way to actually reverse the damage methamphetamine did to the heart. Evidence shows that these medications statistically significantly decrease the risk of dying.

I also counsel the patient on diet, exercise, and quitting methamphetamine to preserve what heart function they have left.

I refer them to a psychiatry specialist who deals with drug rehabilitation, using that same evidence-based approach of randomized control trials showing that certain medications improve patient's compliance with drug rehabilitation, and certain approaches deal with the root psychological issues that drive patients to use drugs in the first place such as socioeconomic factors.

I also have them follow up with the advanced heart failure clinic of cardiologists who can counsel the patient on a pacemaker if indicated in the future.

I also have them follow up with a nephrologist because they are at risk of developing cardio-renal syndrome and may end up needing dialysis in the future.

I also have them see a palliative care doctor who addresses their quality of life and discusses if they want to continue with taking all these pills or if they would rather stop medical treatment and instead focus on comfort-focused measures like pain control and limiting appointments.

As they are homeless they live within a 5 minute walk to the hospital and keep all their appointments.

The patient still ends up overdosing on methamphetamine and dies.

What would a TCM practitioner do differently, and why must that be specifically done by a TCM practitioner and not standardized as practice for all physicians, assuming it passes scientific rigor?
 

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Humor me for a minute, pretend I am an American internal medicine doctor trained in evidence-based medicine and I have a patient with methamphetamine induced chronic heart failure.

I have completed 4 years of undergraduate education, 4 years of medical school, and a 3 year residency, having worked no more than the ACGME mandated maximum of 80 hours a week.

There are guidelines I as a physician must follow for treatment because scientific data supports putting everyone with the diagnosis of chronic heart failure on these medications to reduce their risk of early death. To summarize, these medications lower the amount of work the heart has to do because there isn't any way to actually reverse the damage methamphetamine did to the heart. Evidence shows that these medications statistically significantly decrease the risk of dying.

I also counsel the patient on diet, exercise, and quitting methamphetamine to preserve what heart function they have left.

I refer them to a psychiatry specialist who deals with drug rehabilitation, using that same evidence-based approach of randomized control trials showing that certain medications improve patient's compliance with drug rehabilitation, and certain approaches deal with the root psychological issues that drive patients to use drugs in the first place such as socioeconomic factors.

I also have them follow up with the advanced heart failure clinic of cardiologists who can counsel the patient on a pacemaker if indicated in the future.

I also have them follow up with a nephrologist because they are at risk of developing cardio-renal syndrome and may end up needing dialysis in the future.

I also have them see a palliative care doctor who addresses their quality of life and discusses if they want to continue with taking all these pills or if they would rather stop medical treatment and instead focus on comfort-focused measures like pain control and limiting appointments.

As they are homeless they live within a 5 minute walk to the hospital and keep all their appointments.

The patient still ends up overdosing on methamphetamine and dies.

What would a TCM practitioner do differently, and why must that be specifically done by a TCM practitioner and not standardized as practice for all physicians, assuming it passes scientific rigor?
Nothing... your patient will die anyway whatever you do or anyone does
 

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Good TCM practitioners are much harder to train than Western medicine counterparts. My father is one, every patient needs to have a custom diagnosis and treatment plan tailored to correcting the root causes of illness and can take a long time to achieve, whereas the Western system favours quick immediate results that treat symptoms but might leave the root cause unsolved. I can expand on this more later if need be.
 

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looks like Kede made more breakthrough with CNCs
It always amaze me that the natsec hawks in DC are so concerned about micro-chips but no longer cares about CNCs. This used the national security machine that you can blockade China.
Not sure what they mean with "oscillating spindle in the AB axis", full 5 axis with A and B axis already exist.

They are popular in machining structural aerospace parts
 
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