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Overbom

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So it seems is not only solar manufacturing tech export ban. Additional technologies could be added into the Catalogue of Technologies Prohibited or Restricted from Export
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China plans to add seven new items to its Catalogue of Technologies Prohibited or Restricted from Export, including solar tech
China is considering adding seven new items including LiDAR systems and solar tech to its Catalogue of Technologies Prohibited or Restricted from Export. This move would help the nation maintain its substantial dominance especially in solar manufacturing just as other countries are trying to strengthen their industries, according to reports by JW Insights and Bloomberg on January 26.

China's Ministry of Commerce (MOFCOM) and Ministry of Science and Technology (MOST) published the revised Catelogue on its website on December 30, 2022 to seek public comments.
In addition to LiDAR sytems and solar tech, five other newly added technologies include human cell cloning and gene editing, CRISPR gene editing, synthetic biology (SynBio) technology, crop hybrid advantage utilization, and bulk material handling and conveying technology.
The revised Catalogue has a total of 139 items. It is still in the public consultation phase and no decisions have been made yet.
 

AssassinsMace

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I'd like to see a citation for this please, or at least some reference that I can read.

Patents are already public, that's how they get protection. From what I know, Huawei licenses 5G patents to United States anyway, because U.S. banned Huawei's 5G from United States and influenced EU to adopt a similar approach.
Yes patents are already public hence how the US is opening a Pandora's box if they think they can steal other countries' IP because then everyone can steal US IP.
 

taxiya

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I'd like to see a citation for this please, or at least some reference that I can read.

Patents are already public, that's how they get protection. From what I know, Huawei licenses 5G patents to United States anyway, because U.S. banned Huawei's 5G from United States and influenced EU to adopt a similar approach.
You mistaken "Free" with "Open". Steal here means usage without payment.
 

taxiya

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I would like to see them try. Imagine if they can make EUV machines using ASML patents with no consequence lol
I don't know what you want to say about the "them try and they can", but comparing EUV machine with Huawei's 5G patents is wrong.
The reason that every country including US has to pay Huawei is because the Huawei patents are part of 5G standard that every operator and manufacture has to follow. Any operator is free to not to used that standard therefor not paying, but it will be disconnected to other operator's network like an island.

On the other hand, EUV making has no international standard to follow. Any maker can choose their own solution. BTW patent is NOT something like "1+1=2" someone can claim ownership, it is very specific implementation solution. I don't think patent licencing can block anyone from making EUV machines.

Also, patent right is ONLY valid within a jurisdiction, if ASML only registered its patent in US, there is no legal way to prevent Chinese vendors to use it for free WITHIN China or in any jurisdiction where ASML "forget" to register its patent. This is only the theory, but important to point out as how patent can be circumvented. It also demonstrates how it is "impossible" for US to bypass Huawei.
 

mossen

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China is considering adding seven new items including LiDAR systems and solar tech to its Catalogue of Technologies Prohibited or Restricted from Export. This move would help the nation maintain its substantial dominance especially in solar manufacturing just as other countries are trying to strengthen their industries, according to reports by Bloomberg.

Sad but inevitable given that the US started this tech war. The world is a net loser because the US can't handle the fact that they cannot be #1 in every field. Everything becomes zero-sum. China can't be expected to passively sit and take all the hits without countering.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Looks like they broke the Japanese stranglehold on key OLED material FMM. It has been validated by several customers already.
must point out that FMM is not a material, but a component. It stands for fine metal mask and serves as a mask for patterned deposition of OLED materials. It is not a photomask (no photolithography involved) but a direct shadow mask due to the pixel size being relatively large. The deposition patter replicates the mask pattern.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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