by78
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@jobjed's corrections, clarifications, and additional comments to my original translation:
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He doesn't mention a dedicated anti-helicopter missile, only the current gun-launched missiles already pose a grave threat to helicopters implying that the 99A's FCS can be configured for anti-air using missiles.
The 'bomblets' denote top-attack submunitions like SADARM. They fire a molten jet towards the weak top armour of armoured vehicles while parachuting down. If 99A's top armour is tailored to withstand all such weapons, it would eliminate a huge vulnerability of the PLA's combined-arms assaults.
The 99A's frontal armour can withstand APFSDS rounds with a RHA-equivalent penetration of >700mm, and HEAT rounds with a penetration of >1000mm. However, as mentioned below, the anti-HEAT value is actually above 1200mm but below 2000mm.
I'm pretty sure I've read from an insider or a friend of an insider that the 99A design team had considered a larger-calibre gun but ultimately settled for 125mm as the larger one was considered overkill. The current article says that there is no consideration for upgrading to larger-calibre guns but doesn't preclude prior consideration during the design phase.
The phrasing of the T-14's "uncontrollability" conveyed that its height could not be controlled, not that its driving characteristics were compromised. There also wasn't mention of centre of gravity.
The adverse effect that the T-14's height had on its survivability manifests as conspicuousness which attracts a lot more fire. First-hand accounts from NATO soldiers testify to the difficulties of hitting Soviet-pattern low-silhouette tanks during combat training so maintaining a low profile has real, tangible effects in real life, not just a theoretical benefit. The T-14, being so tall, is much more noticeable and and easier to hit than its predecessors.
I'm not entirely sure how to read his comment on the JGSDF's lack of networked combined-arms units. However, given that the JGSDF is mentioned to not have networked units at all and not just lacking networked tank units, I'd assume this was a comment on the JGSDF's systemic inadequacies, and not related to the Type 10 in particular. In other words, it's probably more a statement of "yeah, their tank is technically capable of network connectivity matching our tank but their military isn't even making use of the capability so the point is moot."
2000mm RHA-equivalent penetration sounds like a very heavy ATGM, possibly the AFT-10. I can't think of any other recent missile made public that is big enough to possess those performance figures. It doesn't rule out the possibility of a classified missile, though.
Goddammit, now I really wanna know what was said in the rest of the lecture. I guess the existing leak is similar to the 2008 Red Flag leak where the USAF pilot goes into classified detail on the performances of various aircraft.
You've done a pretty good job already, I'll just top up where I can.
by78 said:
3. Type-99a is equipped with gun-launched anti-air missiles against helicopters.
He doesn't mention a dedicated anti-helicopter missile, only the current gun-launched missiles already pose a grave threat to helicopters implying that the 99A's FCS can be configured for anti-air using missiles.
4. Type-99a's protection against top-attack munitions is xxx mm
(triple-digit mm) RHA, which is immune to all existing top-attack bomblets. Frontal protection against "穿" (penetration?) is 7xx mm (700+ mm) RHA, and against "破" (broken/shatter?) is 1xxx mm (1000+ mm) RHA, good enough to defeat all existing anti-tank rounds and anti-tank missiles at combat distance. (I'm not entirely sure about the technical difference between "抗穿" and "抗破". Could please someone help me with this?).
The 'bomblets' denote top-attack submunitions like SADARM. They fire a molten jet towards the weak top armour of armoured vehicles while parachuting down. If 99A's top armour is tailored to withstand all such weapons, it would eliminate a huge vulnerability of the PLA's combined-arms assaults.
The 99A's frontal armour can withstand APFSDS rounds with a RHA-equivalent penetration of >700mm, and HEAT rounds with a penetration of >1000mm. However, as mentioned below, the anti-HEAT value is actually above 1200mm but below 2000mm.
6. Performance parameters of Type-99a's powerpack surpasses German MTU and equivalents, however the lifespan of the engine is 500 hours
I think those are MTBO figures, not total life expectancy. I can't find anything online for life expectancy of the MTU 870 but other diesel engines seem to last ~5000-10,000 hours in total so I'd be surprised if the 870 had to be written off after only 1000 hours of use.(?!) vs 1000 hours (?!) of the MTU, but still good enough to meet our practical needs. (Are those typos? 500 and 1000 hours are way too short.)
This claim is highly suspect. Currently identified units sporting the ZTZ-99A are the 112th Division and 62nd Brigade, the former with 93 vehicles and the latter with 62-80 vehicles, totalling 155-173 vehicles. The original ZTZ-99 including both 99-1 and 99-2 total some ~500 vehicles across 16 battalions so it's unlikely that the 99A's production figures have surpassed the original 99. What he might've meant is that existing orders from the PLA already outnumber the existing numbers of 99s so it's inevitable that the 99A will eventually number more.7. Type-99a has been produced in greater numbers than its predecessor, the Type-99.
For all the time we've been noting the PLA's lack of interest in MOUT accessories, this might be the tank to finally demonstrate the PLA's willingness to fork out the $$ for bells and whistles like ultra-thick side-skirts, RWS, APS, etc.8. Work has begun on the Type-99B, which is tailored toward assaulting 'special fortified terrains/areas and urban warfare. The main consideration here is the possible future needs that might arise once China's One-Belt, One-Road (OBOR) project is finished. (Interesting...)
10. We have not considered larger caliber guns, whether they be 130mm, 140mm, or 152mm in diameter. The reason is that we are confident of the firepower of our guns. We have already achieved muzzle energy of 1x mega-joules (10+ mega-joules) with our existing tank guns, and soon we will achieve close to 20 mega-joules.
I'm pretty sure I've read from an insider or a friend of an insider that the 99A design team had considered a larger-calibre gun but ultimately settled for 125mm as the larger one was considered overkill. The current article says that there is no consideration for upgrading to larger-calibre guns but doesn't preclude prior consideration during the design phase.
Supplementary material (provided by the original poster) for clarification purposes:
1. On why T-14 and Type-10 tanks are "garbage":
According to Mr. Mao Ping, "the Russians claim that T-14 has improved crew protection due to its unmanned turret and a separate armored crew compartment, but they ended up with a very large hull, with a height of 2.8 meters. This very large hull size has compromised its survivability." "T-14's engine cylinders are arranged in an X-pattern, as opposed to the V-pattern of our own tank engines. This X-pattern has resulted in a higher center of gravity and compromised T-14's controllability (mobility and maneuverability?)." "Our Type-99a, the American M1A2SEP, and the Japanese Type-10 are all claimed to feature a digital battlefield management system that integrates armor elements with mechanized infantry, but only America and China have actually fielded fully-digitized infantry divisions. America is the first to have done it, and China is the second." (I think what is implied here is that Type-10's digital battlefield management system lacks the ability to communicate with the infantry because Japanese infantries have not been digitized. Only America and China have achieved an all-emcompassing digital battlefield management system that integrates all participants, including individual soldiers, into the system). "The Japanese Type-10 is rarely seen. This is because it has very poor reliability; the threads easily come off during maneuver." "As for T-14, despite its claimed innovations, its firepower, protection, and maneuverability are unimpressive; it's no worry for us."
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The phrasing of the T-14's "uncontrollability" conveyed that its height could not be controlled, not that its driving characteristics were compromised. There also wasn't mention of centre of gravity.
The adverse effect that the T-14's height had on its survivability manifests as conspicuousness which attracts a lot more fire. First-hand accounts from NATO soldiers testify to the difficulties of hitting Soviet-pattern low-silhouette tanks during combat training so maintaining a low profile has real, tangible effects in real life, not just a theoretical benefit. The T-14, being so tall, is much more noticeable and and easier to hit than its predecessors.
I'm not entirely sure how to read his comment on the JGSDF's lack of networked combined-arms units. However, given that the JGSDF is mentioned to not have networked units at all and not just lacking networked tank units, I'd assume this was a comment on the JGSDF's systemic inadequacies, and not related to the Type 10 in particular. In other words, it's probably more a statement of "yeah, their tank is technically capable of network connectivity matching our tank but their military isn't even making use of the capability so the point is moot."
2. Regarding the armor protection level
(of Type-99a):
"We tested an anti-tank missile that can penetrate 1200mm RHA on the Type-99a, the armor held up." (The poster didn't specify the tested armored area. Was it the frontal turret armor? Glacis armor? Side armor? I think the area in question is likely the frontal turret armor.)
"Therefore, the protection level far exceeds 1200mm RHA, but is less than 2000mm RHA. Our newest anti-tank missile, whose design was frozen (certified?)this year, can penetrate 2000mm RHA. Type-99a cannot defend against this new missile."
2000mm RHA-equivalent penetration sounds like a very heavy ATGM, possibly the AFT-10. I can't think of any other recent missile made public that is big enough to possess those performance figures. It doesn't rule out the possibility of a classified missile, though.
Also, this summary is an abridged version of the lecture.
Goddammit, now I really wanna know what was said in the rest of the lecture. I guess the existing leak is similar to the 2008 Red Flag leak where the USAF pilot goes into classified detail on the performances of various aircraft.