drunkhomer
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MIGleader said:
wut about first gulfwar, somalia, kosovo, afghanastan, present day iraq?
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wut about first gulfwar, somalia, kosovo, afghanastan, present day iraq?
One thing that disturbs me is how they use bright yellow buckets in one of the shots. I certainly hope that's not part of standard PLA gear... As for experiance in asymetrical warfare, all the PLA really did in the Chinese Civil War and the WWII was guerilla warfare. They ought to have some experiance in that field by now.
Limited? Well then name me one country who has had any more past SOF experience. Otherwise the U.S. has the most experienced and trained SOF personnel in the world. And I'm not just saying that because I'm American, and totally biased at that. But I have actually had the opportunity to meet a couple different guys that are REAL SF guys. Like I knew a couple dudes who were Rangers, and then there was another guy who was part of a USMC recon squad. And let me tell you, they were definatly some of the most professional guys that I have ever met in my life....
I mean, they were serious, totally kill you with their bare hands kind of guys, but then again they were also really cool. Let's just say I'm happy that they are on our side
I mean, they were serious, totally kill you with their bare hands kind of guys, but then again they were also really cool. Let's just say I'm happy that they are on our side
RedMercury
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Your last statement just destroyed the credibility of the rest. Look up the Sino-Vietnam war of 84.BadKarma said:
Boy, I can kill you with my bare hands if I need too and I am just a reserve. It doesn't really mean much.
Well have your got the opportunity to meet SF guy from other countries. If not your statement doesn't have much credibility.
SF experience hmm. Half the time we wouldn't even know what they are doing. It clandestine operation.
MrClean said:
Name one country? OK. United Kingdom. SAS ring a bell? Russia (Specnaz)? Australia? French African operations? Israelis? Germans? Ask some Middle East terrorist (preferable Palestinian) would he like to meat some GSG-9 boys… He would probably wet his pants and run like hell…
US have great SF, with great equipment and training but you must agree that some other countries have SF in same league… Maybe they have smaller SF but they are still very capable… And they too have a lot of experience…
Ok, how many of you have served in SOW forces of any country? This isent forum for kids to argue whos commandoes are best...they all are trained military profesionalist, well suited for dedicated task given to them and no one should go and spread BS that some of them arent good and mine's are better. There are no way to compare these units, unless they engage each others in real combat situation. In some occasion, there have been held various SOW 'cahmpionship games', and usually these dedicated 'elite' troopers gets beaten up by beer-bellyed estonian reservist.
So as we lack any first hand info over this matter, its rather pointless to argue over it.
Ps. AND these guys are mostly for looking good in TV, if you wanna idiolise some real soldiers, try artillery mens, the ones that actually makes the difference in wars
So as we lack any first hand info over this matter, its rather pointless to argue over it.
Ps. AND these guys are mostly for looking good in TV, if you wanna idiolise some real soldiers, try artillery mens, the ones that actually makes the difference in wars
I got invited to a mini contest the other day, as thet know I used to serve in the Aust. Army. 1st cdo regt Australia army reserve, yeah have fun. I still got my ass kick in by a PLA Solider. These guy are deadly in hand to hand combats. Better then anything in I seen in the aussie army.
This is very true, TV make SOF seem some super soilder which can do anything. But most special forces are train for a specific main role while all the other become 2nd. For example the 1st cdo regt is consider a SF, but trust me they suck in SR, they suck in hostage rescue. But we are 2nd to non in recovery and DA mission. We will go anywhere to destory or recocery anything we need too.. hehe
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BrotherofSnake
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The Battle of Mogadishu.MIGleader said:
How wasn't Grenada a real fight?
U.S. Special Operations Forces conducted a lot of missions in both Operation Iraqi Freedom, and Operation Enduring Freedom.
Also, remember the four man SEAL team that was almost wiped out about a year ago? That was not a limited engagement.
Yeah, hostage rescue operations comes usually the most reported action of different SOW troops, and unfortuanetly failures in these seems to catch more headlines than succeded ones. Like in here finland, We have this dedicated SWAT type of police unit called KARHU, which have managed to do most unfortunated incidents of police shooting criminals (which is very rare in finland only about ten cases in last twenty years). And the media gives an image of them that when ever they enter the crime scene things begun to explode and heads begun to drop...
And in other cases, when dedicated military SOW are used in these operations, lie in Russia...in the moscow theather and in Beslan...these Spetnaz are propaly trained to wartime rear area longrange patrols or sabotage/recce missions...to thorw them to do work of Police authorityes...you have disastour in your hands and kids in US fall into false feeling that their 'cooler' units are much better than lousy russians.