New J-10 thread II

[challenge]

right side show wave guide,usually associate with mechanical radar.giving the size of the radar more like for J-11B

 

[Semi-Lobster]

BTW I hope this isn't old news (I didn't see any discussion on it in the past few pages) but was there any discussion of the Jane's article earlier this month on the Lavi's relation to the J-10?

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[Quickie]

The nose section especially the air intake of the J-10 is quite similar to the F-7MF, the existence (or the concept) of which was discussed in the other thread.

 

[crobato]

right side show wave guide,usually associate with mechanical radar.giving the size of the radar more like for J-11B

Probably not for the J-11B. We have seen a picture of the one for the J-11B and it looks even simpler and cleaner than the radar seen here, indicating the one for the J-11B uses even more miniturized components. The one for the J-11B, along with the JF-17, represents the third generation for the KLJ type slotted array radar, with the radar for the J-8F and J-10 the second generation, and the one for the J-8H, the first generation.

 

[jawad]

On page 3 of the article, it claims:

" 这是西方研究机构制作的一份导弹射程比较图，数据单位是海里。1海里约等于1.852千米。图上美国AIM-120、俄罗斯R-77和中国霹雳 -12这三种世界上典型的现役主动雷达制导中程空空导弹的射程分别约为50、80、110公里。这先前的推测性数据也得到了今天的中国军方新闻报导的证实。可见，中国航空工业高层在珠海航展上接受采访时称“歼-10性能远超外界一切想象”并非是吹牛"

Rough translation, the chart used on the page use nm and not km (1 nm = 1.852 km). AIM-120 and estimated 50 km range, R-77 has 80 km range, and PL-12 has 110 km range.

The article is citing early AIM-120 & R-77 range. From other sources, the range for AIM-120 is:
AIM-120A: 50 km
AIM-120B: 80 km
AIM-120C-5: 105 km
AIM-120D: 165 km

And R-77 range is:
R-77RVV-AE: 90 km (100 km vs. head-on target)
R-77M1: 175 km

So if the PL-12 has ~110 km max range, it's comparable to the AIM-120C5, R-77RVV-AE, and MBDA Meteor (in max range). But still inferior to the latest variants of R-27, R-77, and AIM-120.

On side note, how come we never see A/B/C or Mk.1/2 versions of the MICA AAM?

What is difference between SD-10 / SD-10A / PL-12 if there is any

Why there is big difference in ranges of PL-12 and SD-10??

 

[PrOeLiTeZ]

PL-12 is domestic variant and SD-10 is the export variant of the PL-12, but watered down. SD-10A is just an upgrade of the SD-10

 

[tphuang]

a lot of news this morning about J-10B, even though there is no picture at all. One of the guys just indicated he saw it on the runway apparently. And that it had a modified intake, JF-17 style vertical stabilizer, a typhoon style wings, built in IRST and AESA radar. But this is very early speculation, I'm not sure what to make out of it.

 

[jawad]

PL-12 is domestic variant and SD-10 is the export variant of the PL-12, but watered down. SD-10A is just an upgrade of the SD-10

There is big gap in repoted ranges of SD-10 70km and PL-12 110 km to be a simply a watered down version

a lot of news this morning about J-10B, even though there is no picture at all. One of the guys just indicated he saw it on the runway apparently. And that it had a modified intake, JF-17 style vertical stabilizer, a typhoon style wings, built in IRST and AESA radar. But this is very early speculation, I'm not sure what to make out of it.

interesting news.But how he saw AESA radar inside J-10

 

[Munir]

a lot of news this morning about J-10B, even though there is no picture at all. One of the guys just indicated he saw it on the runway apparently. And that it had a modified intake, JF-17 style vertical stabilizer, a typhoon style wings, built in IRST and AESA radar. But this is very early speculation, I'm not sure what to make out of it.

Just read the same at PDF but how can someone see from distance that it has AESA? Whatever it wil be, it will be worth to be analysed...

 

[Diving Falcon]

a lot of news this morning about J-10B, even though there is no picture at all. One of the guys just indicated he saw it on the runway apparently. And that it had a modified intake, JF-17 style vertical stabilizer, a typhoon style wings, built in IRST and AESA radar. But this is very early speculation, I'm not sure what to make out of it.

Do you find this person/source reliable?

In any case, how long has J-10B been under flight-testing?