New J-10 thread II

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Skywatcher

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nope, don't put too much hype into that report. from all indications, the race didn't get decided until now.

It's just that I find it rather incredulous that Shenyang and Chengdu both spent well over fifteen years to develop their proposals and that Chengdu then manages to win despite having been tied up with the J-10 until 2000 at the earliest while Shenyang is just building J-11s with Russian supplied blueprints and so Shenyang's design team should have more free time than the competitors.
 

Twix101

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Hello there,

It seems that J-10 will match the F-16 in terms of types of weapons carried, it has active radar homing missiles, satellite guided bombs & laser guided bombs soon.

Also, I'm looking for a picture of the J-10 with the large holographic HUD similar to the one present on the J-11B could someone post again the picture? I don't find it anymore.:confused:

Any more informations about the radar ? if it has features such has TWS, RWS, DBS, SAR, NCTR ?
 

PeoplesPoster

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It's just that I find it rather incredulous that Shenyang and Chengdu both spent well over fifteen years to develop their proposals and that Chengdu then manages to win despite having been tied up with the J-10 until 2000 at the earliest while Shenyang is just building J-11s with Russian supplied blueprints and so Shenyang's design team should have more free time than the competitors.

More time does not necessarily mean better design. Who knows, maybe the Chengdu team is just more talented and motivated.
 

tphuang

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It's just that I find it rather incredulous that Shenyang and Chengdu both spent well over fifteen years to develop their proposals and that Chengdu then manages to win despite having been tied up with the J-10 until 2000 at the earliest while Shenyang is just building J-11s with Russian supplied blueprints and so Shenyang's design team should have more free time than the competitors.
it actually works the other way, CAC gained more technical advantage from developing J-10 rather than just indigenize flankers, so it's better at designing new aircrafts.
 

Skywatcher

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it actually works the other way, CAC gained more technical advantage from developing J-10 rather than just indigenize flankers, so it's better at designing new aircrafts.

On the other hand, SAC had more experience with twin engined fighters from the J-18 as well as the canceled J-13 (the one that looked like a MiG-25/F-15).
 

AssassinsMace

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Does it say something that it looks like the J-10 is launching from a ramp?

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Quickie

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It's just that I find it rather incredulous that Shenyang and Chengdu both spent well over fifteen years to develop their proposals and that Chengdu then manages to win despite having been tied up with the J-10 until 2000 at the earliest while Shenyang is just building J-11s with Russian supplied blueprints and so Shenyang's design team should have more free time than the competitors.

It may as well just show that once they start smoking on something imported, it's hard to break the habit of doing things the easy way out and they end up being half full and half empty, or they end up continuing smoking the stuff. Good thing is the habit is not as widespread as in some other countries.

It looks like Chengdu and Shenyang were both tied down with the J-10 and J-11 programs the past more than one decade, and only started to seriously move on to the J-xx program only recently. If only they have a third company working on the J-XX. 15 years is long period but then again, I guess, there was the question of having the best qualified manpower for the project or any project back then.


Does it say something that it looks like the J-10 is launching from a ramp?

[qimg]http://www.china-defense.com/forum/uploads/post-54-1216264869.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://http://www.china-defense.com/forum/uploads/post-54-1216264882.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://www.china-defense.com/forum/uploads/post-54-1216264926.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://www.china-defense.com/forum/uploads/post-54-1216265206.jpg[/qimg]

At least it shows they have the idea to launch the J-10 from a ramp.
Or maybe they have the intent?
 

crobato

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Hello there,

It seems that J-10 will match the F-16 in terms of types of weapons carried, it has active radar homing missiles, satellite guided bombs & laser guided bombs soon.

Also, I'm looking for a picture of the J-10 with the large holographic HUD similar to the one present on the J-11B could someone post again the picture? I don't find it anymore.:confused:

Any more informations about the radar ? if it has features such has TWS, RWS, DBS, SAR, NCTR ?

The last five modes mentioned, along with others, is said to have been already incorporated on the KLJ-1, which is already the predecessor to the J-10's set. Other modes the KLJ-1 was reported to have included Sea Search and targeting, MTI and GMTI. This is all courtesy of export information for the KLJ-1, which is being marketed for the export J-8IIM. A refined version of this set is in service with the J-8F.
 

challenge

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current US and european fighters incorporate net-centric warfare,a pilot can up-load or down load information,this increase "situation awareness".
To date, No PLAAF aircraft such as J-10 and J-11B possess this kind of capability,yet.
 
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