Zeekr really has potential. It has a very unique look that nobody else really replicates well (see Chery's eq5). For some reason it just feels like a budget version of Porsche to me
New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China
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Hesai with new in-cabin Lidar called ET25. Very sleek. It's just amazing to see how fast technology is developing everywhere
U8 interior photo, this thing just looks amazing
BYD announcement that it's bringing Dolphin & Seal to Europe
here is weibo article about the unveiling in Barcelona
BYD Song+ DM-i is getting evaluated by Brazilian police force
About BYD factory in brasil. Aside from the difficulties in taking over Ford factory, some other points
U8 interior photo, this thing just looks amazing
BYD announcement that it's bringing Dolphin & Seal to Europe
here is weibo article about the unveiling in Barcelona
BYD Song+ DM-i is getting evaluated by Brazilian police force
About BYD factory in brasil. Aside from the difficulties in taking over Ford factory, some other points
That's about a $2 billion investment. Interesting since Thailand factory only cost $500 million. So this is a very big investment
so sounds like BYD wants to mine lithium and process lithium
so 30% on industrial center (that's about $600million on the car plant I think) with 2 hybrid models including Song+
Elaborate on how you think the cost of the car could be geopolitically related?
I assume you mean geopolitics beyond things like taxes, margins, transport costs etc
Sound a bit expensive you can get a brand new ICE Ford fiesta, vw polo etc for that money.
Ok, if that means it's ok to go into a bit off political offtopic.
At 30-38 K Euros, as we saw from that one presentation photo, Dolphin is way overpriced - IF it's meant to be price competitive with similar cars in its class. For example ID 2all from volkswagen is being redied to start from 25 K euros. Even if it ends up a bit pricier, it should still be generally in the same price bracket as dolphin, even if Dolphin gets a bit discounted. To me, those are same class cars. Similar range, power, dimensions.
We know Dolphin can be much cheaper, as it is being sold cheaper in other markets. I would dare to say that even other, higher class BYD cars marketed in Germany aren't AS expensive for their class segment as Dolphin is for its, relatively speaking.
So... the Geopolitical theory goes like this: What if there is a tacit understanding between BYD, perhaps even Chinese govt and German govt - that China (and that means BYD) is not going to do sudden tectonic shifts in european car markets. Because Europe, but Germany especially, can't really afford to lose the domestic market as well. It's already losing China's market, and if it lost a lot of domestic market, it'd directly impact german economy as a whole, as it's so much exposed to changes in automotive industry and market shares.
So perhaps BYD agreed to price their cars so they don't undercut at all. They're perhaps losing some money there, but at the same time they're keeping up the image of a luxury, quality brand. But perhaps more importantly, for China's interests overall - maybe there is also a tacit understanding that there would be no economic decoupling and that China could count on European markets in the long run.
Please understand this is just a wild what if. It's not meant to be a conspiracy theory.
Huawei's new smart driving system.. it will combine a lot of urban vision systems....
ithome got a preview of new Denza N7 smart cockpit
Harmony 4.0 for cars coming out. also looks very good and high end
Harmony 4.0 for cars coming out. also looks very good and high end
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The time has indeed changed. Now it's China's auto executive talks and the foreign one takes notes.
Talking about Xpeng, they just unveiled a new platform and is aiming to cut cost by 25% so they can be profitable by 2025.
Chery will be the 1st automaker to use CATL's sodium ion battery. CATL will also unveil the "condensed matter battery" at the Shanghai auto show next week.
Talking about Xpeng, they just unveiled a new platform and is aiming to cut cost by 25% so they can be profitable by 2025.
Chery will be the 1st automaker to use CATL's sodium ion battery. CATL will also unveil the "condensed matter battery" at the Shanghai auto show next week.
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