New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

mossen

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henrik said:
Nio is selling like crazy.
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Their comeback deserves study. They were on the ropes not too long ago. Wuling's total collapse surprised me.

Among the foreign automakers, the remaining Japanese players do ok. Only Honda does badly. Seems ICE buyers in China have strong brand loyalty to foreign brands in a way that EV buyers do not. If foreign OEMs don't start selling competitive EVs soon this will be their final honeymoon, because ICE sales will start crashing towards <10% by early next decade, if not sooner.
 
PiSigma

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ThatNiceType055 said:
They took more time to rest and eat. They rested three times during the entire trip.

6:23: Departed from Xiaomi Auto Factory in Beijing

9:51-10:03: 12-minute break (Binzhou Service Area)

12:53-14:15: Charging + lunch + rest, total 82 minutes (Linyi Service Area)

17:22-17:40: 18-minute break (Dongtai Service Area)

21:40: Arrived at Shanghai 5G Future Center
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Surprised at the amazing coverage of service areas. Linyi and dongtai are tiny cities. Been to dongtai before since I had relatives there. These are truly fourth tier cities and they have decent infrastructure.
 
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Honda and Nissan are not doing well in China. Some genius (or Ah Q in my opinion) from Japan claims that this is a sign that China's economy is weak, instead of evidence that legacy Japanese automakers are in trouble in China.
Dongfeng Nissan, a 50:50 joint venture between Chinese carmaker Dongfeng Motor and Japanese auto giant Nissan Motor, must humbly learn from rivals faced with challenges posed by new forces in the electric vehicle market and focus on surviving, according to its deputy general manager.
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Honda scrambles to stem bleeding in China with gasoline-car plant shutdown​

Japanese automaker cuts capacity as sales slow, but struggles to tap EV demand
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The fact is, foreign automakers need Chinese technologies nowadays.

Foreign carmakers turn to Chinese technology to remain relevant​

Western executives hope ‘in China for China’ strategy will halt sales decline in world’s largest car market
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PopularScience said:
My last post on this topic. I don't read gossip. I read actual news. My impression is Xiao Mi is personal cult.
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There is a cult, but it doesn't represent even a fraction of Xiaomi buyers, cars included.
Even 2 years later, Xiaomi cars make people turn heads the way no other Chinese car (including even FCB and YW series) can. They just stand out.

For many it's a downside, but of course not for all.
 
ThatNiceType055

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Chery’s Exeed EX7, the world's first vehicle to feature an EMB (Electronic Mechanical Brake-by-Wire) system, replacing the hydraulic brakes of traditional automobiles.

Traditional automotive braking systems rely on hydraulic lines to transmit braking pressure.

EMB directly drives the brake actuators mounted at the wheels via electrical signals, achieving electronic and direct brake control.

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Chery’s Exeed EX7, the world's first vehicle to feature an EMB (Electronic Mechanical Brake-by-Wire) system, replacing the hydraulic brakes of traditional automobiles.
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Note the article says first "aviation grade" BBW system.
It is not the first BBW system, basically all cars with an electric drive (full EV or Hybrid) use them to control the Regen braking system.

EDIT: OK, I think I found out, I think this has absolutely no hydraulic brakes at all ("fully-dry"), vs the other cars mentioned still have hydraulic brakes as part of the system.

This is similar to a previous discussion in this thread with respect to BYDs newest Disus-Z active suspension (no hydraulics) vs. something like the Multimatic active suspension. Response time should be better. In theory the Exeed should have superior response time and thus reduced braking distance.
 
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ThatNiceType055

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supersnoop said:
Note the article says first "aviation grade" BBW system.
It is not the first BBW system, basically all cars with an electric drive (full EV or Hybrid) use them to control the Regen braking system.

EDIT: OK, I think I found out, I think this has absolutely no hydraulic brakes at all ("fully-dry"), vs the other cars mentioned still have hydraulic brakes as part of the system.

This is similar to a previous discussion in this thread with respect to BYDs newest Disus-Z active suspension (no hydraulics) vs. something like the Multimatic active suspension. Response time should be better. In theory the Exeed should have superior response time and thus reduced braking distance.
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Yes, fully electric, no brake fluid required. Directly controls the actuator with electric motor.
 
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