New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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CrazyHorse

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Wait whut? How dare GM?!?!

Canada needs to invoke some cold war law, remove clearly US-compromised CEO and seize the GM Canada factory cos they are clearly gutting the Canadian factory and offshoring production.

It's a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY!
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The carney government is firmly in the hands of the capitalist class, they’re cutting public services and basically giving corpos billions to build shit in hopes that it will foster wider economic gains, when in reality it’ll just be building unprofitable oil pipelines with public funds. Canada at this point will lay down and take the punishment if the govt thinks it’ll earn them brownie points with Trump.
 
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GM and almost all western automakers have scaled back their EV ambitions. They are giving up to Chinese companies. GM is not offshoring this plant, they simply see no future in EV delivery vehicles.
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Volkswagen is trying and doing fairly well, so not all of them have given up on EVs, far from it. Battle.is never won until the end. So we shouldn't call off the game before seeing the end.
 
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Michael90 said:
Volkswagen is trying and doing fairly well, so not all of them have given up on EVs, far from it. Battle.is never won until the end. So we shouldn't call off the game before seeing the end.
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VW is relying on Xpeng while Stellantis is relying on Leap Motor. The EV game has been evolving way faster than the rest of the world. In age-old large-scale global business like auto, once OEMs are falling behind the technological curves, history is never kind for them catching up. From technological point of view, the game is already over. Just look at the BBA sales in China month by month this year. It it so clear that time has changed because the consumer minds have already shifted. It is a secular trend rather than one-off hiccup.
 
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Flexible coating for solid-state battery:
In testing, batteries with this new coating ran for more than 4,500 hours under heavy use and stayed stable for over 7,000 hours at –30°C, conditions that would typically cause other solid-state batteries to fail.
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Gotion will build a 20 GWh (enough for 200,000 - 400,000 EVs every year depending on battery size) battery factory in Slovakian for the European market.
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Geely is catching up fast.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1984000226240426094

BYD Racco has something other electric Japanese K-cars don't have: LFP blade battery.
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Flexible coating for solid-state battery:

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Gotion will build a 20 GWh (enough for 200,000 - 400,000 EVs every year depending on battery size) battery factory in Slovakian for the European market.
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Geely is catching up fast.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1984000226240426094

BYD Racco has something other electric Japanese K-cars don't have: LFP blade battery.
gC5gh4J.jpg

7ZFo1t9.jpg

8vH80H9.jpg
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wait, there is no chery group? I thought Chery will be at least in the top 15. Surprised they don't even figure. Is this graph accurate?
It's interesting to see VW at number 4, despite the fact that they have been too late and lagging in adapting to the electric revolution. So a number 4 position is actually impressive, didn't think they will be that high up, guess their dominance of europe's EV market is helping them alot. Geely's rise has been phenomenal, i believe they have taken market share from BYD, will be interesting to see if they can unseat BYD at number 1 this coming years. Tesla is still hanging on well. leapmotor, Xiaomi, and Xpeng are the new asian tigers in EV, they are growing the fastest, so will be interesting to see what will happen if they can sustain this speed of growth, especially Xiaomi who has far more demand than they can even supply. So the list will definitely change alot this coming years. many brands will die and consolidate this decade. Interesting time to live in.
 
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supersnoop

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Michael90 said:
Volkswagen is trying and doing fairly well, so not all of them have given up on EVs, far from it. Battle.is never won until the end. So we shouldn't call off the game before seeing the end.
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Yes, it is still early, but Porsche already announced its intention to return to ICE focused lineup. The halo of the group.
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wait, there is no chery group? I thought Chery will be at least in the top 15. Surprised they don't even figure. Is this graph accurate?
It's interesting to see VW at number 4, despite the fact that they have been too late and lagging in adapting to the electric revolution. So a number 4 position is actually impressive, didn't think they will be that high up, guess their dominance of europe's EV market is helping them alot. Geely's rise has been phenomenal, i believe they have taken market share from BYD, will be interesting to see if they can unseat BYD at number 1 this coming years. Tesla is still hanging on well. leapmotor, Xiaomi, and Xpeng are the new asian tigers in EV, they are growing the fastest, so will be interesting to see what will happen if they can sustain this speed of growth, especially Xiaomi who has far more demand than they can even supply. So the list will definitely change alot this coming years. many brands will die and consolidate this decade. Interesting time to live in.
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Chery is primarily selling ICE cars.

Have you ever actually driven a VWAG EV? The MEB cars are uninspired, but cost a luxury premium. You expect luxury features, but then you don’t even get common features lol remote unlock.
 
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