New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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Musk scaled down Tesla delivery targets, 2M units near term and 4M units long term. I remember we talked about Tesla trajectory here a while ago, talking about long term delivery between 10M and 20M per year. My guess is that even Musk underestimate its primary competition in the global NEV market.
 

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And a - pretty rare I might add - piece of bad news for BYD.

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BYD Atto 3 given worst Euro NCAP driver-assistance score ever

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SUV has just received the worst
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score ever for one of its
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functions, with safety experts advising drivers to use it at their own risk.

In its latest batch of safety tests, Euro NCAP gave the BYD Atto 3’s ‘Intelligent
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’ system a ‘Not Recommended’ rating – the lowest grading it offers when it comes to testing driver-assistance systems and one that hasn’t been awarded until now.

Euro NCAP says the reason for the Atto 3’s incredibly low score was its system’s seeming inability to take control in the scenario of an unresponsive driver being met with a road obstacle. The experts state that “in this critical scenario, the system effectively switches off steering support after a prolonged period of inactivity whilst maintaining speed control – leaving an unresponsive driver to his or her fate.”

The lack of a reaction garnered the Atto 3 zero points out of 25 in the Unresponsive Driver Intervention test, with it only clawing back ‘Weak’ and ‘Adequate’ results in the System Failure and Collision Avoidance categories respectively. BYD’s systems also struggled in Euro NCAP’s tests to identify traffic signs, scoring a “modest” 55 per cent for Vehicle Assistance.

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Auto Express has asked BYD to comment, but is yet to receive a response. However, the firm has told Euro NCAP that the driver-assistance systems in its newer models (such as the
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) employ more advanced technology, although it remains unclear whether this would impact the results of the test.

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For all the flaws and weaknesses of the US manufacturing industry, it should not be underestimated. US is still the 2nd largest manufacturing country in the world, and still has massive advantages in various industries:

  1. It still probably has the best overall aviation industry in the world, even with all the troubles with Boeing.
  2. It is by far the leading Space power in the world. Already 120 launches this year, and an average US launch has a higher payload capacity.
  3. It is still really really good in very high tech stuff. In some industries there is still no US substitute.
  4. At least historically US was also very good at scaling when it needed to. The number of tanks, ships, and aircrafts that US built during WW2 is mind boggling.
Selling a bag of washers for $90k does not make the person stamping the washers comparable to a fully automated high end automotive assembly line , equating the two is the nature of US's claim to having a manufacturing industry.

1 - US aviation industry is still reliant on and struggling to build 60 years old models, it has nothing comparable to, or even realize the existence of China's Low Altitude Economy, and Low Altitude Economy incorporating small urban drones, eVTOLs and long range unmanned transports dwarf America's 20th century legacy aviation.

2 - The entire US has 1x space company, SpaceX, who in turn has 1x model, the Falcon 9, launching 1x payload, Starlink, serving one purpose: to make up for western countries' lack of telecom infrastructure with slow and unreliable internet (that's from experience), that's the entirity of America's space program today. China has half a dozen launch startups, building multiple new commercial launch pads, with satellite factories with capacity multiple times SpaceX coming online. US can't afford to run just a portion of ISS, can't afford to build a replacement, can't afford to fund a dedicated lunar lander or even VIPER, and can't afford Mars Sample Return, while China's national team, which is in addition to commercial providers, simutaneously operate China's own space station, expanding China's own station, building a moon rockets, lunar lander, robotics exporation, Mars landers and Mars Sample Return, and China is doing all of the above solo. So no, US is not the leader, it leads in one or two directions, but is struggling in almost all other.

3 - There are nothing from the US without subsititude, there are things from other countries without substitudes and those countries are vunerable to US financial blackmail, but US itself does not have them. More importantly, the number of things China holds total monopoly over dwarfs the US, just because China doesn't exercise sanctions (yet) does not mean America is comparble.

4 - Historically US scaled faster than Europe, and it still does, but the world is much bigger than Europe now, and America can't go back in time.
 

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China’s GNE develops lithium-sulfur battery with energy density of 700Wh/kg
The energy density of the newly developed lithium-sulfur prototype far exceeds the one of common lithium -ion batteries.

October 23, 2024 Vincent Shaw

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From ESS News

China’s General New Energy (GNE) has recently announced a significant breakthrough in lithium-sulfur (Li-S) battery technology, unveiling a prototype with an energy density of 700Wh/kg.

According to GNE, this new battery not only far exceeds the energy density of existing lithium-ion batteries but also offers substantial improvements in both mileage and safety.

Lithium-sulfur batteries, which use sulfur as the cathode and lithium metal as the anode, represent a promising alternative to traditional lithium-ion batteries. Theoretically, Li-S batteries can achieve energy densities of up to 2,600Wh/kg, which is over five times that of their lithium-ion counterparts. Furthermore, sulfur is abundant, inexpensive, and environmentally friendly, giving Li-S batteries a cost and sustainability edge.
 
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